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Windows 7: Random system working set RAM overload

07 Jul 2014   #1
Diddy7Kong

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 
Random system working set RAM overload

I'm not sure where this belongs, and I dont know what to call it, but I had a system process terminated blue screen error during boot, and after a second attempt, it booted fine, but when I render something in sony vegas, now I get all 8 gigs of my system RAM occupied from nothing and the render self-cancels, and I am stuck using ramMap purging system working set every 2 minutes
I'm not sure where to go from here, or if i should delete the whole system and reinstall it.. Here is a screenshow of the ram section of resource monitor:




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07 Jul 2014   #2
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Maybe I'm not understanding your question but looking at your picture it shows that you are using all the ram and about to run out of ram.
You either stop doing some things or install more ram.
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08 Jul 2014   #3
Diddy7Kong

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Maybe I'm not understanding your question but looking at your picture it shows that you are using all the ram and about to run out of ram.
You either stop doing some things or install more ram.
, it shows that im about to run out, but the thing is, that nothings using up to that amount in total, this only happens when i perform a video export from sony vegas and it starts rendering the video, the ram slowly climbs up to that, crashes the render, the RAM goes away sometimes, after closing sony vegas, otherwise, it stays like that and actually CLIMBS as i close other programs, using rammap, if i purge the system from RAM, it clears up all the suspicious ram ussage and the ussage goes back to "normal" under the conditions shown on that list in the image
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08 Jul 2014   #4
LMiller7

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Post a screenshot of Task Manager - Performance tab. That is always the best place to start. There is information there that is not found anywhere else.

Edit: The memory usage in the process list will never add up to total usage. It was never intended that it would. There are major users of memory that are not processes.
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08 Jul 2014   #5
Diddy7Kong

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LMiller7 View Post
Post a screenshot of Task Manager - Performance tab. That is always the best place to start. There is information there that is not found anywhere else.

Edit: The memory usage in the process list will never add up to total usage. It was never intended that it would. There are major users of memory that are not processes.
Ok, then I don't know what it could be, my onyl guess is that the sytem itself is filling up empty bytes to the ram, because when I use rammap to empty "system working set", the phantomly filled ram goes away and starts crawling back

I provided the screenshot because I knew that I would be asked for it to check for applications that might be unexpectedly using it and ussage didnt add up

the ussage with the screenie above is supposed to be around the 3 gig mark and instead filled up to the 8 gig mario (which is how much ram is installed on my system)
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08 Jul 2014   #6
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

This is what LMiller requested.

Random system working set RAM overload-capture.jpg

I would suggest forget about Rammap and let Windows 7 manage all memory. Using such programs will have you chasing ram until cows can tap dance.

Check and see how many programs you have set to start at boot that will be running in the background even when not need.

Take a look at #8 in this tutorial by Brink.

Optimize Windows 7

After optimize Windows 7 as per the tutorial and let Windows manage all ram you have two choices if you are using all your ram.
1. Stop doing so many things on your computer at one time.
2. Add more ram.

Rebooting your computer also helps.


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08 Jul 2014   #7
Diddy7Kong

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

thanks for the help, I will try it after this skype call marathon I'm hosting is over
I get really paranoid about rebooting the system
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18 Jul 2014   #8
Diddy7Kong

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

ok, I want to clearify on this issue in when and how it exactly happens:

1) when sony vegas is open with the screenshot supplied, ram ussage is around 3GB

2) when i click on render/export, and start rendering, it is at THIS point in time, that the ram ussage starts infinitely climbing mysteriously, and with ram Map, pointing the blame at "system working set" as task manager does NOT show the mysterious ram being used

3) system starts dumping RAM to the paging file and system becomes practicaly unresponsive except for movement of the mouse

4) sony vegas terminated render prematurely


5) reinstalling sony vegas did NOT fix the problem

6) a RAMDISK driver was installed, but later removed.


7)mysterious RAM spike in otherwise, does NOT occur

and it is this reason, I cannot compress my fraps AVI files (total: 150GB) so that I can upload them to youtube in a reasonable time
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18 Jul 2014   #9
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

To me it is not mysterious.
Your Vegas program and rendering is using the ram.
Then you through all the other things you are doing on your computer it makes sense to me.

Did you or did you not check the programs that start with Windows using msconfig/Startup.

Could you post a picture of all you start up programs in msconfig.

From your post #8

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2) when i click on render/export, and start rendering, it is at THIS point in time, that the ram ussage starts infinitely climbing mysteriously, and with ram Map, pointing the blame at "system working set" as task manager does NOT show the mysterious ram being used
Forget about all that XP stuff about routing ram, ram drives ect.

You either stop do the things that is using the ram or you add more ram so you can do all those things.

What is the exact H.P. Laptop you are using?
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18 Jul 2014   #10
LMiller7

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

When dealing with memory issues I find it best to start with a screenshot of Task Manager - Performance tab. There is information there not found anywhere else.
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