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Windows 7: Inexplicable (to me, at least) sleep problem

23 Jul 2014   #1
Not Myself

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
Inexplicable (to me, at least) sleep problem (SOLVED)

I've been having computer sleep problems, so yesterday, I rebooted, and set monitor and computer to go to sleep after one minute. When that worked, I then increased the sleep time for both one step at a time in the Power Options time choices.

I ended the day yesterday with both set for one hour. That worked so well that at 0445, SuperAntiSpyware woke the computer, ran the daily scheduled scan, and the computer went back to sleep. I woke the machine a while later, and set the time for both to two hours.

Without opening any other programs than the ones that were running yesterday, the computer failed to go to sleep after two hours. I then reset the time to one minute to run a quick test; after one minute, the monitor went to sleep, but the computer did not.

That last behavior is what I have been encountering for several days, forcing a reboot to get the computer to go to sleep as scheduled. Each time this has happened, I first test by setting the sleep interval to one minute; when that works, I reset the monitor to thirty minutes, the computer to two house. I then find, usually the same day, that the computer will again not go to sleep as scheduled.

I have neither any idea as to why this is taking place, nor any idea how I might find out what the cause is and fix it. Suggestions, ideas, incantations, chants, and/or other methodologies to ameliorate the problem accepted.


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24 Jul 2014   #2
Not Myself

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Ninety-seven views, no replies, so, in the all-too-likely event that this bump will prove fruitless alas, I'm going to do this only once.
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24 Jul 2014   #3
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Pretty weird stuff going on are you using a created power plan or a built in power plan and adjusting the sleep timer ?
Review this tutorial it might show all that's able to wake or prevent sleep,
Devices - See Devices that are able to Wake Up the Computer
Click Start and type in the search box,
msconfig
Click on the suggestion on top or hit the Enter key,
Go to the Startup section and take some screen shots for a complete list,
Go to the Services section and on the bottom left Check the box to Hide All Microsoft services,
Repeat the screen shots,
See the links above my signature on how to take and upload screen shots here,
Cheers.
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24 Jul 2014   #4
Not Myself

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

"Pretty weird stuff going on are you using a created power plan or a built in power plan and adjusting the sleep timer ?"

Not weird at all. As I only do weird, well, then, `weird' is the new normal....

As I wrote in my original post, I am using (and always have used) a built-in power plan, adjusting the sleep timer. Again, as in the first post, I had gone through the timer step by step, with the same settings for both the monitor and computer; this worked through one hour, but after I selected two hours, sleep stopped sleeping.

Herewith the requested screen shots.

Inexplicable (to me, at least) sleep problem-startup_.jpg

Inexplicable (to me, at least) sleep problem-services_.jpg

Herewith the second, my thanks for offering assistance.


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24 Jul 2014   #5
gregrocker

 

Win7 performs best with the cleanest boot possible. I only allow AV, Sync, Flash updater.

Is that Comodo the firewall or a duplicate AV to Avast? You don't really need more than MSE with Win7 firewall for best performance, unless you get infected regularly for which MBAM Real Time will stop it cold.

What I'd do is turn off all of those except AV and SAS if you own the Real Time protection - which may be overkill since I only ever need it if I'm chasing down an invader.

Then reboot and test again with Sleep set to 1 minute. I would also set Hibernate to 2 minutes because I think it is a better Shutdown and is perfected in Win7. No need to keep power to the RAM when you can achieve the same thing and have the fast startup with Hibernate. But that's my opinion.

If you find Sleep works without all the freeloaders starting on Win7's back, then I would only re-enable those you absolutely need running with Windows as they become apparent, testing as you go if things change.
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24 Jul 2014   #6
Not Myself

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

gregrocker: My setup has been basically the same for at least two years, likely longer, and the sleep problem has existed for perhaps a week. Changing everything seems to me to be unwarranted, as it would not necessarily fix the problem.

Avast! is antivirus, Comodo firewall, no duplication there. I don't have MSE, which continues to receive poor ratings.


And, again, I have set sleep to one minute, then to two, and on, until I reached 120 minutes during a day-long testing session that ended shortly before I started this request for assistance, as it was after reaching two hour sleep in Power Options that sleep failed. There were no changes in the setup nor in programs running at the time, namely WordPerfect, Thunderbird, and Firefox, the three programs that always are running.
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24 Jul 2014   #7
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
Race

I notice Gregrocker reccomended one sec and two secs for next action. This is good. I would even spread them out slightly further. When they are set to the same you run the risk of a race before they are executed. A race means one might not get executed.
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24 Jul 2014   #8
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Did you get a list of devices from the tutorial ?
Cheers.
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24 Jul 2014   #9
Not Myself

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Did you get a list of devices from the tutorial ?
Cheers.
Forgot to list the two, which I already knew, namely the keyboard and the mouse.
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24 Jul 2014   #10
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

While I do find and agree that that is a long startup list, if it suddenly started happening last week that is a key point there. (although you really should disable some of them, a lot of them are unnecessary but it is your machine.)

Basic troubleshooting 101:

1.) Has any applications updated in the last week since when the issue began?

2.) Another thing that would be smart to do is find each program that is in your startup list and check the change log on there website and see what was changed. Another idea is too look into their forums and see if anyone is reporting a similar issue.

3.) If you did a system restore back to the time it was working and this solves the issue at hand, we then can look into what program is causing it.

4.) Did you get a new mouse/keyboard/hardware lately?

5.) Try and deselect an application from starting at boot in msconfig one at a time, and then see if a certain program is causing it.

6.) Please see this guide: Wake Source - Read Event Viewer Log to see what it reports is waking it.
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