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Windows 7: Jimbos confused - W7 Mainstream support to end 2015

04 Sep 2014   #11
Berton

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, Windows 8.1 64-bit, Mac OS X 10.10, Linux Mint 17, Windows 10 Pro TP
 
 

Mac OS X has no built-in support for NTFS-formatted External USB HDDs but does just fine with a NAS/Network Attached Storage NTFS-formatted drive connected to a Router. The NAS also supports Linux computers.


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05 Sep 2014   #12
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by King Arthur View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Similarly if W9 for example has support for the new file systems such BTRFS then we might get connectivity problems across LANS etc.
I can say with certainty that file system interoperability across LANs will not be a problem. File system access across networks is abstracted through the host operating system handling that drive, so the client operating system accessing the drive through that host will never be concerned with its file system.

I say this because Windows 9x operating systems, which have no native support for NTFS, are able to access NTFS file systems perfectly fine with no fuss if it is over LAN through hosts running whatever flavor of Windows NT (2000, XP, 7, etc.).

To reiterate in simpler terms: If the host OS has support for a given file system, a client OS will face no problems accessing that file system regardless of its own support or lack thereof.

Hi there

Thanks for clearing me up on that -- I suppose I SHOULD really have known the answer especially as I share LINUX files with Windows via SAMBA - the Windows machines don't have any trouble reading / writing to the Linux shares whatever file system is used on the Host machine (Reiserfs / ext2, ext4 etc).

Anyway thanks again for clearing that up.

It's also possible that people might make an unofficial W7 SP2 project - rather like the ongoing XP SP4 project which actually works quite well !!!!

http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopi...=133918#133918


Cheers
jimbo
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05 Sep 2014   #13
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
...It's also possible that people might make an unofficial W7 SP2 project...
I still don't see why M$ won't make an SP2 for Win 7 (other than greed and sheer orneriness). Even if it was just a collection of all previous updates in one service pack, it would make life simpler for a lot of Win 7 users.
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05 Sep 2014   #14
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
...It's also possible that people might make an unofficial W7 SP2 project...

TEST -Update 7 installation media
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05 Sep 2014   #15
OvenMaster

Win7 Pro 32bit; Zorin OS 9 Core (in VM)
 
 

The only people who Micro$oft cares about are the stockholders, not the users. Windows Vista and 8 prove it.
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06 Sep 2014   #16
gregrocker

 

Getting ready for a birthday here at the home of Windows 7.

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06 Sep 2014   #17
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

I think windows 7 support will be extended just like xp was. XP support was supposed to completely end in 2009 but got extended until 2014.

Businesses just now are getting windows 7, so I think it is very likely microsoft will be forced to extend 7 support.

And I do not understand why it would need replaced soon anyways. It is not like xp where technology has changed so rapidly that the OS cannot keep up. Windows xp was released in the days of the internets true beginning where everyone started to get online. Windows xp was not prepared for security threats, or malware or hacking attacks.

I am not saying windows 8 does not improve on the security of 7, it does. But it is no where near enough improvement to abandon ship.

We shall see what windows 9 brings. If it sucks as well, I will stay with 7 until I can no longer, then bye bye Microsoft and hello Linux.
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24 Sep 2014   #18
BlueGuy

W7 Ultimate 32-bit
 
 

Boy, am I late!
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Windows 7 is getting all the X XPers; .
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by King Arthur View Post
..... the drive through that host will never be concerned with its file system.
I say this because Windows 9x operating systems, which have no native support for NTFS, are able to access NTFS file systems perfectly fine with no fuss if it is over LAN through hosts running whatever flavor of Windows NT (2000, XP, 7, etc.).
To reiterate in simpler terms: If the host OS has support for a given file system, a client OS will face no problems accessing that file system regardless of its own support or lack thereof.
Hi there

.......It's also possible that people might make an unofficial W7 SP2 project - rather like the ongoing XP SP4 project which actually works quite well !!!!
RyanVM.net Discussion Board :: View topic - Starting a Windows XP Service Pack 4 Project
Cheers
jimbo
Like the Windows 2000 Pro project that has been going on for years;
RyanVM.net Discussion Board :: View topic - Post-EOL unofficial updates for Windows 2000
Since I have the SP4 integrated VL already and no longer have to pay for it.
& Windows NT4 / 2000 / 2003 - MSFN Forum
It has its' uses and goes beyond the 32 bit ram limit plus one fellow
breaking the two-core barrier as well.
http://i.imgur.com/H24q6dg.jpg
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by andrew129260 View Post
I think windows 7 support will be extended just like xp was. XP support was supposed to completely end in 2009 but got extended until 2014.
Businesses just now are getting windows 7, so I think it is very likely microsoft will be forced to extend 7 support.
And I do not understand why it would need replaced soon anyways. It is not like xp where technology has changed so rapidly that the OS cannot keep up. Windows xp was released in the days of the internets true beginning where everyone started to get online. Windows xp was not prepared for security threats, or malware or hacking attacks. ..
We shall see what windows 9 brings. If it sucks as well, I will stay with 7 until I can no longer, then bye bye Microsoft and hello Linux.
I'm not fussy, as long as 9 still lets me [in 32-bit with or without PAE] run my MDP-130s and the Plus! Pack
from Windows '98 (I like my pointers red, not black or white, in 32bit or 64) for subtle customizations with
the classic desktop [using 'Maple' as the starting point] and other legacy stuff.
I play with Linux but since abandoning Atari TOS/MiNT in '98, do most of my work in Windows.
However, at the same time having increased my use of open source, much of it written by former Atari [and Commodore] programmers. Still use an nLited XPPro in one of the HTPCs but the firewall is set to only allow the clock setting corrections and the TV listings to get through.
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24 Sep 2014   #19
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

I suppose it could depend on how well Windows 9 is accepted. If 9 has the same response in the market as 8 had & an attempt to rectify that with 8.1, which only satisfied a small percentage, then MS may be forced to bring out an SP 2 for 7. Time will tell.
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25 Sep 2014   #20
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ranger4 View Post
If 9 has the same response in the market as 8 had & an attempt to rectify that with 8.1, which only satisfied a small percentage, then MS may be forced to bring out an SP 2 for 7.
Please?

Guaranteed proven success vs. more Playskool on the Start menu.
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