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Windows 7: Windows Startup Repair query

16 May 2015   #121
RedLad

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Cheers lads,

So it this the best solution? correct me if I'm wrong. Basically I have to connect the SSD to them cables I posted pics of and the SSD has to live in that 'empty bay' area? So moving forward it should not be connected to where it currently is.

I will be away for most of the weekend so probably will not get a chance to try this, but when I do I will give you an update as soon as I can.


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16 May 2015   #122
GokAy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Yes, this is what you are supposed to do at the moment:

- Enable AHCI drivers in registry (msahci only is enough)
- Open case right side as instructed on previous post
- Attach the SSD there, don't bother closing it back the case just yet
- Check boot order in BIOS
- Log in to Windows, if all good it will install drivers, and will reboot
- Run AS SSD (run the benchmark too), post screenshot of results

When we see all is good, you can shop for a 2.5"-5.25" bay converter or 2.5-3.5 + 3.5-5.25 converter (these are metallic sheets usually with screw holes for appropriate places) - don't worry about this yet.
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18 May 2015   #123
RedLad

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GokAy View Post
Yes, this is what you are supposed to do at the moment:

- Enable AHCI drivers in registry (msahci only is enough)
- Open case right side as instructed on previous post
- Attach the SSD there, don't bother closing it back the case just yet
- Check boot order in BIOS
- Log in to Windows, if all good it will install drivers, and will reboot
- Run AS SSD (run the benchmark too), post screenshot of results

When we see all is good, you can shop for a 2.5"-5.25" bay converter or 2.5-3.5 + 3.5-5.25 converter (these are metallic sheets usually with screw holes for appropriate places) - don't worry about this yet.
Hi GokAy

I managed to connect the SSD in the place you mentioned. The PC booted, but with the message below. Also please find attached the AS SSD Benchmark result. Out of curiosity, is this boot message a result of the Raid option still being enabled?


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Windows Startup Repair query-upon_boot.jpg  
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Windows Startup Repair query-as_ssd_benchmark_results_02.jpg 
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18 May 2015   #124
RedLad

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Just adding this screenshot of my Bios:


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Windows Startup Repair query-bios_drives.jpg  
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18 May 2015   #125
GokAy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Hey, did you check BIOS boot order? Maybe some other configuration in BIOS.

We can't disable the SAS controller because you will need it for your HDD later.

The AS SSD shows that msahci is correctly loaded. And the performance is much better than previous benchmark but the write is still unacceptable. You should have around 450-550 read/write and bit better 4k-4k/64 speed. Access times are much better now, maybe can be better, I don't know. Did you restart the PC after the new drivers were loaded?

I wonder if something is wrong with it. Do you have any friends/another PC that you can check it with?

Check in BIOS:
- Boot Sequence
- Advanced Boot Options
- Secure Boot
for the preferred boot device is missing warning.
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18 May 2015   #126
gregrocker

 

It says clearly you have a RAID card in PCI slot 1. I would disable it under these devices in BIOS or carefully remove it takin precautions against static discharge by touching case metal before reaching inside, no carpet, studying card closely to determine in advance how to unsnap locks and slowly pull it out. Get help if you need.

Then use the onboard SATA at AHCI like everybody else. Again I would ask Dell why they inflicted this crap.

What say you GoKay?
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18 May 2015   #127
RedLad

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GokAy View Post
Hey, did you check BIOS boot order? Maybe some other configuration in BIOS.

We can't disable the SAS controller because you will need it for your HDD later.

The AS SSD shows that msahci is correctly loaded. And the performance is much better than previous benchmark but the write is still unacceptable. You should have around 450-550 read/write and bit better 4k-4k/64 speed. Access times are much better now, maybe can be better, I don't know. Did you restart the PC after the new drivers were loaded?

I wonder if something is wrong with it. Do you have any friends/another PC that you can check it with?
The boot sequence is starting with the SSD yeah.

This drive was performing a good bit better than this before, when I got the PC a few weeks ago. It's just when I did the moving of user folders that something went wrong. In saying that, I still had a feeling that it wasn't performing to it's maximum when I got the PC.

I reckon a clean wipe will tell us alot about it. I reckon the wipe will fix a few things? I just find it bizarre that I can't even install a clean, non corrupt version of 3ds Max.
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18 May 2015   #128
GokAy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Greg: I guess the problem is, there are only 2 SATA ports. And the rest HDD bays are all tied to the PCI raid controller. So if he removes that card, he won't be able to add any HDDs.

In BIOS screenshot you can see SATA-0 (DVD-ROM) and SATA-1 (SSD), and no other regular SATA ports.

To be honest I believe the SSD should have been working to advertised speeds with the RAID controller too or there would be too much grief on the web. I still believe he is better off with SSD on SATA-1 running msahci drivers though. And installing all data HDDs on the raid ports.

Well maybe we can rule out a Windows problem with a Live Linux distro and running a bechmark in it. I have no idea which distro has such a capability though.
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18 May 2015   #129
RedLad

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GokAy View Post
Hey, did you check BIOS boot order? Maybe some other configuration in BIOS.

We can't disable the SAS controller because you will need it for your HDD later.

The AS SSD shows that msahci is correctly loaded. And the performance is much better than previous benchmark but the write is still unacceptable. You should have around 450-550 read/write and bit better 4k-4k/64 speed. Access times are much better now, maybe can be better, I don't know. Did you restart the PC after the new drivers were loaded?

I wonder if something is wrong with it. Do you have any friends/another PC that you can check it with?

Check in BIOS:
- Boot Sequence
- Advanced Boot Options
- Secure Boot
for the preferred boot device is missing warning.

Hi GokAy,

In Boot Sequence the top item is the SSD.
Advanced Boot Options - the only option in here is 'Enable Legacy Option ROMs' and this checkbox is enabled.
Secure Boot - the is set to 'Disabled.' Should it be enabled??

In your post where you mentioned drivers being installed when I booted up with the SSD connected to the SATA port - I didn't see this happening. Usually a window appears saying it's installing drivers, is that right? Or sometimes in the bottom right you see a message about installing drivers is taking place. But I didn't see that.
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18 May 2015   #130
GokAy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Yes, you should have seen that little window,hmm, so you didn't restart PC until you took the BIOS screenshot after running the previous AS SSD? Run it again and see if it is better now. No need to post results if it is somewhat same as last time (do say if it is same though). Also does your SSD show as ATA device now under disk drives?

You can try disabling legacy option ROM and see if it will boot. Not familiar with that kind of setting.
No idea what secure boot is.
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