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Windows 7: W7 Prediction

View Poll Results: Yes or No
Yes 13 40.63%
No 19 59.38%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 32. You may not vote on this poll

27 Nov 2014   #41
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by strollin View Post
MS does not force anyone to upgrade ...
MS might not do it, but your employer can (and often does) do it.


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28 Nov 2014   #42
gregrocker

 

A sobering experience today installing Win7 on several new laptops and realizing it is finally showing its age, as compared to Dual Boots with the TP that set up in half the time.

It's hard to break off an affair that's been as intense as the one with Win7. It has been quite a ride that never stopped even for a day since beta in 2009 and is one of the high points of my life. I took personally the insult that Windows 8 was its logical successor, feeling we'd landed suddenly in some alternative universe where a billion MS customers' preferences made no difference. I couldn't restrain myself from objecting passionately even though I felt I might be risking my MVP. But I knew it was really a show of profound loyalty and in the end MS has come around to provide the clearly logical successor.

So I am wistful. We have so much here to be proud of. I join you in lamenting the beginning of the end of the greatest OS ever, here in it's own Crowded House.

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28 Nov 2014   #43
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Not "down and out" just yet

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
So I am wistful. We have so much here to be proud of. I join you in lamenting the beginning of the end of the greatest OS ever, here in it's own Crowded House.
I wouldn't count W7 as "down and out" just yet.

MS still has plenty of time to "snatch defeat from the jaws of victory".

IMO, the last two updates for W10 TP (b9860 & b9879) have made the OS worse than W10 TP b9841 (which was pretty much perfect).
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29 Nov 2014   #44
MouseGolf

Windows 7 64 Bit
 
 

It boggles the mind that people don't consider the "masses". They are the ones that will not like anything straying away from the familiar UI created in Windows 95.

Regardless of what country you are from, if you drive a car you don't want the steering wheel attached to the backseat, the shifter replaced with a touchscreen and the accelerator become a button you push on the dashboard. That's how different W8-W10 are in comparison to the way billions embarked on the Windows learning curve back in 1994.

Foolish for M$ to try and be "trendy", "faddish" or mimic someone else's OS.
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29 Nov 2014   #45
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

I do get fed up with the never ending "the last OS was best" circus thats comes round every time a new OS is released by Microsoft, I've heard it since early dos days. Enthusiasts like the majority of members here live up to their name by being enthusiastic either for or against, nothing Wrong with that the majority of windows users are not enthusiasts, they are home and business users who think windows is internet explorer or word or excel, they see what they use when on the computer, doing what the use the computer for. they do not spend all day worrying about aero or modern interfaces, if a tile can show them info they want or need they use it, if not they don't.

A lot is said about Windows 7 Being the best OS ever, I used it as my main OS from pre beta days, because it was a good evolutionary step forward from Vista, which was probably the more revolutionary OS. I think that the OS that made the most impression on me was Windows 2000, which spawned the eternal favourite XP, (Windows 2000 with a UI by Walt Disney), which was not a bad OS when they got to SP2, and ironed out all the bugs added when they re-packaged 2000 for the consumer market.

I spend 8-12 Hours a day in front of a windows machine and I see the OS for a hour or less of that time so interface bells and whistles are irrelevant to me, and this is more so of the majority of users who almost never do much at all outside of their applications.

As a point of interest I some months ago was running Windows 7 on my main machine and used RDP to link to a Windows 8.1 system and ran some applications, it was only when I went to log off about 6 hours later I realised I was in the Windows 8.1 environment and not windows 7 as I thought - That shows How much the OS UI is less important than the application UI for most of the time.
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29 Nov 2014   #46
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
I think Windows 10 is already a better OS, faster and with improvements that I can use. It has kept me from returning to Windows 7 since the day I installed it.
From you Greg (your W7 interest etc) that is one strong endorsement. Compatibility with some of my existing software is probably going to be a disadvantage.
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29 Nov 2014   #47
gregrocker

 

Good point Nigel about we here being enthusiasts and the difference vis a vis average consumers. Even then I think the Start screen was too much for (statistically) 85% of consumers

Michael I was introduced to TP product team at MVP Summit by Rob Brown who is top poster at MS forums as "the biggest supporter of Win7. If you convince him then you've done something." I replied that "I'm convinced." I then passionately appealed for a Clean Reinstall Reset on Win10 for factory OEM which is how most people get the OS.

They seemed interested and fully agreed that it is in MS's ultimate interest to have the OS in pristine form. I am convinced there won't be any interference at the least, something it took us years to achieve in 7.

I also argued that apps are a foreign currency most people won't use. I suggested A video introducing mail app might get these started as its a nice convenience to have all your mailboxes in one interface with such a big reading pane.
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29 Nov 2014   #48
MouseGolf

Windows 7 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Good point about we here being enthusiasts and the difference to average consumers.
Thank you. It's redundant for me to say this but anyone of us who participates in forums about Operating Systems, Overclocking, Firmware, Hardware etc. DO NOT represent the people in the world who simply power on a computer and go directly to their favorite programs/apps.

Those "masses" are the people we remote specialists help who get so angry that M$ strays away from something they could rely on, like the light switch next to the door on the right hand side.
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29 Nov 2014   #49
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Greg I can remember an Outlook/Exchange Server Migration I was involved with a year or so back, approximately 7000 seats ( team of 10 engineers) - moving from a mixture of local machine and remote server (Hong Kong) storage to local server (UK) for a UK Company's Email/Calendar system. the systems were an eclectic mix of XP/Vista/W7 Machines which meant a slightly different approach for the migration. I was allocated to the top floor (excecutive & technical offices), so assumed I would be dealing with users with some computer savy - wrong !! I soon stopped asking "what OS are you running " and being treated like I was speaking in pigeon Serbo-Croat, and just suggested they grab a cup of coffee and i got on with it!!

We managed the migration in the allotted 10 days and got our bonuses
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29 Nov 2014   #50
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

Windows 7 was, is a great OS. It ranks up there as one of my favorites. I don't see the point in regurgitating it as Windows 11 though. Microsoft is moving forward not backward? IMHO, doing that would be step back.

If your already running Windows 7, would you actually pay again to use the same OS that's been rebranded and had features removed? I wouldn't.
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