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Windows 7: Everything is crashing? Chrome pages and games. What's up?

06 Jan 2015   #51
mike009

w7 ultimate 64-bit sp1
 
 

You already have F6, so that is good. Don't update it for now as to not cause any other problems.


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06 Jan 2015   #52
NanoDice

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Oh.. crap.. I actually just updated it to F7.. my bad... darn :/

Browser is still crashing.. so..
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06 Jan 2015   #53
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

I'll have to check your Mobo to determine if it is dual channel - you might already know aor could easily tell by looking at the slots. Dual channel slots are color coded.

If the Mobo is dual channel, it might not like memory in one slot or another when only one stick is inserted.
Rule of thumb
- one RAM stick goes in slot 1
- two RAM sticks (1 goes in slot 1 and the 2nd goes in slot 3)

The Mobo 'pairs' the sticks for better performance and usually complains (passively = slower perf, actively=crashes)
Note, that is just an example - the slot #s are Mobo specific.

But ... that's why I was so adamant about doing the RAM tests in a particular way. That plus once you get through the exercise, you can scratch memory off the list of possible causes. Getting RAM off the list is important because everything goes through it.

Bill
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06 Jan 2015   #54
NanoDice

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
I'll have to check your Mobo to determine if it is dual channel - you might already know aor could easily tell by looking at the slots. Dual channel slots are color coded.

If the Mobo is dual channel, it might not like memory in one slot or another when only one stick is inserted.
Rule of thumb
- one RAM stick goes in slot 1
- two RAM sticks (1 goes in slot 1 and the 2nd goes in slot 3)

The Mobo 'pairs' the sticks for better performance and usually complains (passively = slower perf, actively=crashes)
Note, that is just an example - the slot #s are Mobo specific.

But ... that's why I was so adamant about doing the RAM tests in a particular way. That plus once you get through the exercise, you can scratch memory off the list of possible causes. Getting RAM off the list is important because everything goes through it.

Bill
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Yes they are color coded. When I ram dual channel, I had them in slots 1 and 2; thus the way I formatted my memtest results ( slot 4, slot2, slot 3, slot 1). The ram that previously came up with errors showed no errors this time. What do you think is the problem?
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06 Jan 2015   #55
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

This is what I found on the Gigabyte site.

How memory should be installed for normal operation in Dual Channel.
Does this match you motherboard manual. Some times the manual is printed incorrectly.

Also could you look in the lower left corner of your motherboard it should show either Rev 1.0 or 1.1

Everything is crashing? Chrome pages and games. What's up?-gigabyte-memory.png


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06 Jan 2015   #56
NanoDice

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
This is what I found on the Gigabyte site.

How memory should be installed for normal operation in Dual Channel.
Does this match you motherboard manual. Some times the manual is printed incorrectly.

Also could you look in the lower left corner of your motherboard it should show either Rev 1.0 or 1.1

Attachment 345526
I'm pretty sure I installed my memory correctly.

Also, my motherboard says Rev 1.0.

Any ideas of what I can try?
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07 Jan 2015   #57
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Their is only one proper way to install ram and that is exactly as per the motherboard manual.
It' worth checking again. How you move them around during memory test doesn't matter as log as the test can see them.

When you run Memtest86 it doesn't tell you if the ram is installed correctly. It tells you if the ram and the ram slots work correctly. After the test you install the ram back the way the motherboard manual instructs you to.

So I don't have to read this whole thread again could you tell us the results of the memory test.

Did you find bad ram and or ram slots in the motherboard?
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07 Jan 2015   #58
NanoDice

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
Their is only one proper way to install ram and that is exactly as per the motherboard manual.
It' worth checking again. How you move them around during memory test doesn't matter as log as the test can see them.

When you run Memtest86 it doesn't tell you if the ram is installed correctly. It tells you if the ram and the ram slots work correctly. After the test you install the ram back the way the motherboard manual instructs you to.

So I don't have to read this whole thread again could you tell us the results of the memory test.

Did you find bad ram and or ram slots in the motherboard?

Hi, thanks for responding.

Here are the results for the memtest

Slot# 1 empty
Slot# 3 empty
Slot# 2 empty
Slot# 4 RAM A
4 passes - 5 errors

Slot# 1 empty
Slot# 3 empty
Slot# 2 empty
Slot# 4 RAM B
4 passes - no errors

Slot# 1 empty
Slot# 3 empty
Slot# 2 RAM B
Slot# 4 empty
4 passes - no errors

Slot# 1 empty
Slot# 3 RAM B
Slot# 2 empty
Slot# 4 empty
4 passes - no errors

Slot# 1 RAM B
Slot# 3 empty
Slot# 2 empty
Slot# 4 empty
8 passes - no errors

Slot# 1 RAM A
Slot# 3 empty
Slot# 2 empty
Slot# 4 empty
8 passes - 0 errors
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07 Jan 2015   #59
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NanoDice View Post
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So, even the supposedly "bad" ram came out with 0 errors this time. I think I might run it on slot 4 again to see if any errors come up? What do you guys think?

Also and more importantly, I think I have just confirmed that this isn't a software issue. Running a fresh install of Windows 8 also caused a crash to Internet Explorer.. I was hoping this would be a software issue.. but oh well..
Is RAM A the one you determined was bad before? I'm getting confused.

If I have followed your testing it seems to indicate that Slot 4 is questionable. If it was bad, both sticks would fail.

I am a bit concerned that you are changing things (fresh install of Win8, updating BIOS,, trying to install the Nvidia driver) while trying to troubleshoot. The only way I can help is if the system stays in the same state and a component is tested. When that component, be it software or hardware is eliminated from the possible culprits, then another component can be tested.

Here's what I'd do next - run with only one stick inserted in whatever slot the manual says to run a single stick. Use the stick that is not suspect.

I think we've beat the memory testing to a standstill.

Please identify the page you downloaded the current installed driver.
Here's what I found, but I need you to confirm it is the correct page BEFORE you install it
GIGABYTE - Graphics Card - NVIDIA - PCI Express Solution - GeForce 900 Series - GV-N970G1 GAMING-4GD (rev. 1.0/1.1) ?
Everything is crashing? Chrome pages and games. What's up?-x.png
+edit:
DO NOT INSTALL the driver it has been confirmed as the correct board AND a member request that you install it.
-edit

I reviewed the thread and I jumped in when you started testing the memory, but going back to post# 1, I'm not sure of the issue you're trying to solve.

I'll just ask.

Does the system BSOD or are you just getting application crashes?

and ... is anything overclocked? Yes? - reset everything, including BIOS to defaults.

I'll check back after I get some sleep.


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07 Jan 2015   #60
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Bill I'm having the same problem.
I'm not able to keep track of what is and what isn't.
I'm not able to follow the thread with any reasonable understanding.

@NanoDice

You are our eyes and ears. We only know know what you post.
We need to know exactly what you have done and the results.
If you go running off doing things not requested by helping members you are wasting your time and ours.
We want to help you but you have to let us help you.

1.What is the computer doing now? How well does it run?

2. What have you done and the results?

3. Exactly what ram have you been using and in what slots.

4. What have you done to fix the ram errors you were getting.

5. What have you changed sense you started this thread.
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