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Windows 7: Two Active Partitions - No errors yet, but is this a problem?

27 Mar 2015   #51
LaurieD227

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit SP 1
 
 

Woohoo - I think this is finally done!!


And, yes, I remembered to hit Apply in PW, and I double-checked that PW shows my C drive as Active & System & Boot and all the others as 'none'


And, yes, I remembered to do my Macrium backup before making these changes, copying the partitions required to restore Windows, as a precaution ... and I will now replace that image with an "after" version so I don't have to redo this


Thank you all for your patience and your help and support




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27 Mar 2015   #52
LaurieD227

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit SP 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Now you should be able to mark E inactive, and windows should boot no problem.

Do that, re boot and post a new shot
I took screen shots as I went, but I figured I'd just keep moving rather than post every step since things appeared to happen correctly - if anyone wants intermediate shots I have them and can post them - I even took photos of what I did when I was in the BIOS, just in case

And, oh, yeah - windows booted successfully every single time
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27 Mar 2015   #53
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Excellent work

Now make sure windows is fully updated, then create a fresh disk image and store it right there on Disk 0
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27 Mar 2015   #54
LaurieD227

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit SP 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
I've dealt with this very issue here thousands of times.

One additional thought -

Would it make any sense to create a tutorial (or some sort of informational thread that would persist) about the fact that drive numbers can change unexpectedly, and that system files can wind up in unintended places? It might save others from having to browse through 4 year old threads and track down old KB numbers and such.

I'm suggesting this because the first place I looked for information on this was Tutorials and I didn't find what I needed there.

I also saw this from BrodyBoy in November 2010, in the following thread:
SATA port numbers vs assignemnt of Disk numbers/

"At one point, you had asked what consequence this might have, aside from being a nuisance. I see this as a serious trap for newbies trying to do clean installs, in a couple ways.
  • First, if they look in Windows to determine where to put the new install, it's very possible they could end up installing on the wrong hard drive and maybe even lose important data in the process, if the enumeration changes when they boot to the installer.
  • Second...and I didn't even know about this until I read the MS KB article...in some scenarios, the reversed disk enumeration can cause Windows Setup to put the System Reserved partition on a different HDD from the system partition. This could cause issues down the line with drive upgrades, disk imaging, etc. This seems like much more than a nuisance, and something worth avoiding.
I frequently help the technically-challenged through clean installs, via email, PMs, or texts. If I can't figure out a way to ensure consistent drive enumeration, I can't standardize a simple instruction for determining installation location. (I'm talking about people who are completely new to this, the ones who need a step-by-step walkthrough.) I've wanted to avoid making them open their laptops to disconnect cables or remove drives, if possible."
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27 Mar 2015   #55
LaurieD227

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit SP 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
Excellent work

Now make sure windows is fully updated, then create a fresh disk image and store it right there on Disk 0

Absotively posilutely - or something like that
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27 Mar 2015   #56
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

The best and only thing you can do is to combat that is to put the OS drive on sata port 0 or 1, whatever number the board starts with.

The fastest port is usually always #1 6Gbps (today`s boards anyway)

Sata drivers like to play games with where the disk ends up, but it usually always straightens itself out if the drive is connected to the right port.

Others may say it doesn`t matter, to that I say.........

Why dig a hole with a shovel then, when you can use a spoon ?
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27 Mar 2015   #57
LaurieD227

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit SP 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
The best and only thing you can do is to combat that is to put the OS drive on sata port 0 or 1, whatever number the board starts with.

The fastest port is usually always #1 6Gbps (today`s boards anyway)

Sata drivers like to play games with where the disk ends up, but it usually always straightens itself out if the drive is connected to the right port.
I gotcha - you're saying the speed factor rather than the port number itself is what overcomes the MS characteristic of 'fastest response wins the Drive 0 slot in Disk Management' and keeps the OS drive as Drive 0 - right?
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27 Mar 2015   #58
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Nooooooo, I`m not saying that at all.

I said the best thing you can do is put the disk you want on port 1, on port 1, but windows DM still may not show it correctly.

For example, a board with IDE and SATA drives will always show the IDE drives as Disk 0, 1 etc before the sata drives, but that`s just windows and that`s another situation altogether.

As long as you are happy with the result, that`s all that matters
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28 Mar 2015   #59
LaurieD227

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit SP 1
 
 

Okay - third time's the charm. I finally "got it."

When I went into Setup to change the boot order, I saw 5 SATA ports - 1, 3, and 5 had devices connected to them. (I assume the other two ports are there to support the expansion drives this box will take (it will take 2 SSD drives and 2 HDD drives in addition to a DVD drive, and I believe each pair will support RAID mode). The SSD drive is Port 5.

I'm going to find out why they are connected in the current manner, just to satisfy my curiosity. However, I'm also adopting the "don't mess with it any more if it ain't broke" approach at this point, and I don't plan to change my current arrangement unless and until it causes problems.
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28 Mar 2015   #60
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Post your Windows Experience Index scores when you get a chance.
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