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Windows 7: Part 2: Microsoft silently preparing your PC for Win 10

16 Apr 2015   #111
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

It's true USB drives can be used to infect a computer but that isn't the biggest, let alone the only, source of computer infections. The only reliable way to avoid infections from foreign USB drives is to simply not plug them in. At one time, a popular way to infect a company's computer system was to leave a few infected USB drives laying in the company parking lot. Some dumb sap was bound to pick one up and plug it into the company's system to either try to find out who lost the drive or just to see if it was any good. That trick received a lot of publicity a while back but it is responsible for only a tiny percentage of infections overall and is certainly not the only or even the most frequent way computers get infected.

One could scan a USB drive for infections but one runs the risk of the infection getting onto the computer before the scan is started.


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16 Apr 2015   #112
Borg 386

Win 7 32 Home Premium, Win 7 64 Pro, Win 8.1, Win 10
 
 

I prefer not to take any chances whatsoever of compromising my USB drive when I'm fixing someone's infected PC. I'll burn any Malware removal tools onto a CDR & take a portable CD drive with me in case their PC/Laptop doesn't have one.

My USB drives are all immunized, but why take chances.
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16 Apr 2015   #113
eatup

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
eatup you obviously you need to spend more time reading post.

No way in hell is Lady Fitzgerald a fan lady for MSE or a M/S shill.
Lady Fitzgerald has been using Avast as far back as I can remember and in many case has given her opinion of MSE. Her opinion on MSE are not favorable.

Now for me I like and use MSE but I don't agree or understand your comments in your post #103.

From post #103
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Also, usually the system becomes infected via a tainted USB drive. That is how most malware spread.
I have no idea where you got this idea. Can one get infected by things being plugged into a usb port; of course you can but I doubt if that is the usually the big problem cause of infection.
If a external device is a infection problem one has to ask how did the external device get infected.

I could go on but I'm not in the mood.
Okay, I gotcha, Avast thinks it knows security (about a MS OS) more than MS...

Anyways, if I was a malware author, it would be difficult to get users to download an .exe (well, maybe the first few users). They then have to open the downloads folder and actually click on it. I'd be thinking of making it propagate via USB instead once the first few users have clicked the file. All the unsuspecting user has to do is plug that USB into another computer and BAM! that machine becomes infected. No need to take any other action on the users part.

MSE is The King at stopping this. They're the ones who invented programs auto-loading on USB devices...
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16 Apr 2015   #114
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

I lost track of the topic
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16 Apr 2015   #115
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by eatup View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
eatup you obviously you need to spend more time reading post.

No way in hell is Lady Fitzgerald a fan lady for MSE or a M/S shill.
Lady Fitzgerald has been using Avast as far back as I can remember and in many case has given her opinion of MSE. Her opinion on MSE are not favorable.

Now for me I like and use MSE but I don't agree or understand your comments in your post #103.

From post #103
Quote:
Also, usually the system becomes infected via a tainted USB drive. That is how most malware spread.
I have no idea where you got this idea. Can one get infected by things being plugged into a usb port; of course you can but I doubt if that is the usually the big problem cause of infection.
If a external device is a infection problem one has to ask how did the external device get infected.

I could go on but I'm not in the mood.
Okay, I gotcha, Avast thinks it knows security (about a MS OS) more than MS...

Anyways, if I was a malware author, it would be difficult to get users to download an .exe (well, maybe the first few users). They then have to open the downloads folder and actually click on it. I'd be thinking of making it propagate via USB instead once the first few users have clicked the file. All the unsuspecting user has to do is plug that USB into another computer and BAM! that machine becomes infected. No need to take any other action on the users part.

MSE is The King at stopping this. They're the ones who invented programs auto-loading on USB devices...
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16 Apr 2015   #116
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by eatup View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
eatup you obviously you need to spend more time reading post.

No way in hell is Lady Fitzgerald a fan lady for MSE or a M/S shill.
Lady Fitzgerald has been using Avast as far back as I can remember and in many case has given her opinion of MSE. Her opinion on MSE are not favorable.

Now for me I like and use MSE but I don't agree or understand your comments in your post #103.

From post #103
I have no idea where you got this idea. Can one get infected by things being plugged into a usb port; of course you can but I doubt if that is the usually the big problem cause of infection.
If a external device is a infection problem one has to ask how did the external device get infected.

I could go on but I'm not in the mood.
Okay, I gotcha, Avast thinks it knows security (about a MS OS) more than MS...

Anyways, if I was a malware author, it would be difficult to get users to download an .exe (well, maybe the first few users). They then have to open the downloads folder and actually click on it. I'd be thinking of making it propagate via USB instead once the first few users have clicked the file. All the unsuspecting user has to do is plug that USB into another computer and BAM! that machine becomes infected. No need to take any other action on the users part.

MSE is The King at stopping this. They're the ones who invented programs auto-loading on USB devices...
eatup, just for information other operating systems can auto start or auto mount flash drive. My linux distro auto mounts when I insert the usb flash drive.
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16 Apr 2015   #117
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Quote:
Also, usually the system becomes infected via a tainted USB drive.
I would not subscribe to the "usually", but this is a big problem. We had 18 systems in our computer club seriously infected from USB flash drives. And that despite free AVG being installed on every one of those systems. It was a real mess.

And why do we know that it was the members USB sticks - because nobody ever downloads anything on those systems.Most of the time these systems do not even have an internet connection. They are for hands-on training.
IMO, "Auto-Play" should be disabled by default (and "Hide Extensions" too).

Also, some AV programs have "auto-scan" for USB media.
AVG had it when I last used it.
It was a pain, as you had to wait for the scan to finish before you could use the USB media.

The TAFE PCs have "Auto-Play" enabled and last year (or the year before) it took the IT people weeks to track down and fix some malware problem.
They use some corporate AV (Norton or McAfee).

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by groze View Post
eatup, just for information other operating systems can auto start or auto mount flash drive. My linux distro auto mounts when I insert the usb flash drive.
Agreed.
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16 Apr 2015   #118
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Yeah right. After those incidents we installed very strict procedures and officially nobody is allowed to put a flash drive into a club system. But with 850 members, that is difficult to control.
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16 Apr 2015   #119
Phone Man

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 



I installed all those updates so I can see what happens next. The only updates I hide are hardware drivers as I get those from the manufactures sites.

I have backup images so I am not afraid,... not afraid, ... not afraid, help!!

Jim
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16 Apr 2015   #120
tblob

Win 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by eatup View Post
Heed what warning? I'm typing this on XP with the version of MSE before the very last one for XP installed. Just b/c something is past eol doesn't mean it's not usable for the next decade or two, or that it's suddenly become "vulnerable" if you have the right protection in place...
Your complete misunderstanding of how patches work could be very dangerous if anyone reading this decides to take you seriously. Here's whats really going on: As you know, EVERY patch tuesday, MS issues security fixes across the entire range of supported products. Some of these fixes also WOULD apply to XP if it was still supported, but since it is not, no patch for XP. BUT, nefarious people/governments/organizations can take the patches for W7, W8, Windows Server, etc, and REVERSE ENGINEER them to figure out what was being patched in W7, W8, etc, and create an exploit for XP. (since there are many similarities at the KERNAL level)

There are script kiddies all over the world who sit around and write/reverse engineer XP exploits for fun (since many enterprises/businesses are still using it, $$$$ to be had).

JUST TODAY, it was announced that a patch from 2 DAYS AGO has already been reverse engineered, and is being used to exploit servers worldwide.

Sysadmins, patch now: HTTP 'pings of death' are spewing across web to kill Windows servers

Any XP system connected to a large network is GUARANTEED to get pwned eventually.

Also, contrary to your earlier statements, most infections DO NOT come from USB drives, and most malware creators DO NOT intentionally call attention to their infections as a way of bragging.
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