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Windows 7: Part 2: Microsoft silently preparing your PC for Win 10

19 Apr 2015   #161
MilesAhead

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W10 is slower than W8.1 on my system. They are both in VMware Player and maybe that distorts reality.
why vmware? you could native boot w10 in a vhd[x] file container. It has the same effect as being in an isolated vm, but runs at native speed. I ain't never gonna install w8+ on a real partition again thanks to this feature.
Do you have a link to a step by step? The only time I tried a VHD I think it didn't work right because it was from an XP installed on D: that saw its system partition as H:. Now that everything is on C: again I'd like to give it a go.

(Sorry for hijack)


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19 Apr 2015   #162
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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W10 is slower than W8.1 on my system. They are both in VMware Player and maybe that distorts reality.
why vmware? you could native boot w10 in a vhd[x] file container. It has the same effect as being in an isolated vm, but runs at native speed. I ain't never gonna install w8+ on a real partition again thanks to this feature.
I guess that is an option. But I have many systems installed under VMware Player. So it is just the most convenient way for me. And I can operate the systems side by side without bringing my host system down. Plus I can carry it form one PC to the next without having to worry about drivers and such.
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19 Apr 2015   #163
eatup

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by eatup View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
W10 is slower than W8.1 on my system. They are both in VMware Player and maybe that distorts reality.
why vmware? you could native boot w10 in a vhd[x] file container. It has the same effect as being in an isolated vm, but runs at native speed. I ain't never gonna install w8+ on a real partition again thanks to this feature.
Do you have a link to a step by step? The only time I tried a VHD I think it didn't work right because it was from an XP installed on D: that saw its system partition as H:. Now that everything is on C: again I'd like to give it a go.

(Sorry for hijack)
This article can explain it better than I can:

Native VHD Boot to Windows 10 Technical Preview Dual Boot with Windows 7 or Windows 8 | Next of Windows

Who needs VMWare when you could native boot/test drive the new OS with all the benefits of a sandboxed virtual machine without the performance hit...
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19 Apr 2015   #164
eatup

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit
 
 

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
W10 is slower than W8.1 on my system. They are both in VMware Player and maybe that distorts reality.
why vmware? you could native boot w10 in a vhd[x] file container. It has the same effect as being in an isolated vm, but runs at native speed. I ain't never gonna install w8+ on a real partition again thanks to this feature.
I guess that is an option. But I have many systems installed under VMware Player. So it is just the most convenient way for me. And I can operate the systems side by side without bringing my host system down. Plus I can carry it form one PC to the next without having to worry about drivers and such.
I have never known a system that didn't work with the drivers provided by Microsoft (other than the touchpad driver on laptops to disable tapping). And you can in fact carry that vhd file to another computer, so long as you originally installed it in a non-machine specific environment (ie. Imagex/VirtualPC/Hyper-V) and sysprep it. When you native boot that vhd image, it will go thru all the processes of setting itself up for the new machine as if it were a fresh new install (but with everything else you did to it including hotfixes, installed apps, etc.) There isn't a point to using the modern OSes running at "emulator" speeds. Everything should be native...
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19 Apr 2015   #165
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I guess it is a matter of preference. Using the VHD is an option but I don't like to reboot my system. With VMware Player I can bring up any of my many virtual systems in less than 30 seconds from an external SSD. And the performance impact is really very minimal. Plus I can carry my external SSD to any of my PCs and I always have up-to-date systems.

A couple of my Linux systems I even run on my $99 Asus 11.6" laptop with only 2GB of RAM and an Atom processor. Booting is a bit slower because I have only USB2 ports, but once it's running, it is fine.

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19 Apr 2015   #166
eatup

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit
 
 

Well, to each his own. But VMWare can't make full use of all your hardware. Have that brand new 3D card? Running games in native boot can...
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19 Apr 2015   #167
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

In my 55 years of computer involvement I have never played a single game, LOL Like I have not been to the movies since 1964. For me that's all a waste of time.
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19 Apr 2015   #168
eatup

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit
 
 

What's the point of test driving W10 if you can't test out the new DirectX, which isn't just for games...? Anyways, one thng we agree on, I haven't watched a Hollywood movie (at the theater) since Avatar 6 years ago...
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19 Apr 2015   #169
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I rest my case.
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19 Apr 2015   #170
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

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In my 55 years of computer involvement I have never played a single game, LOL Like I have not been to the movies since 1964. For me that's all a waste of time.

You never played Microsoft solitaire (you can turn off the time option and scoring option if you want).?
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