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Windows 7: svchost.exe (netsvcs) draining all my memory

12 Jul 2015   #71
Nedly

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The only way I can think of to try and sort this out, as network techs would do, we would visit logs of the updates that went through to find relative updates, and then narrow down which one is in conflict, then we can roll it back or present it to Microsoft in a bug report. Without log files, and without rewinding updates, I really am not sure how to debug the issue either. There are not many apps that can monitor the same stuff in realtime very well accept for those that audit and log. We need log files like bread needs butter.

You could try something simple like RamRush. There was also a WinTweak application I used to use to force Windows to unload the cached data of closed services and apps. There are apps like Process lasso that will let you put some restrictions on processes.


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12 Jul 2015   #72
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I think a proxy service would focus more on network bandwidth conflicts versus memory though..

This entire situation reminds me of dependency issues in Linux. Linux software is based on the concept of taking a bunch of mini scripts and setting them up so we can feed commands to one and have its output go to another. So some applications need specific components, and when specific components get updated when others don't, you have dependency issues; because some component will 'depend' on a certain version of another component.

I believe this is what is happening here. I think some services got updated and others are in conflict. The SVCHost has not had serious mods since 2012, so it is a different service that is now causing conflict with the SVCHost, and the bug has not been patched yet.

I am almost positive it has to do with the new Windows shifts, including 10. From my research, this is following the collapse of XP support.
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12 Jul 2015   #73
Callender

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Okay it does run but not permanently.

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12 Jul 2015   #74
Callender

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@ Nedly. I already use Process Lasso. I also don't have a problem with windows updates but I did experience high RAM usage caused by windows update service (now fixed)
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12 Jul 2015   #75
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@ Nedly. I think those Windows 10 upgrade updates had something to do with it. However I've seen other users resorting to a freah install of Windows 7 to fix the problem and one of those reported that the issue returned when SP1 was installed.
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12 Jul 2015   #76
Nedly

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That could only be the case if the version was a new build with the recent updates built in. Also, if that were the case, then it is most certainly an issue based on hardware, probably either the CPU or chipset. If that were the case then there is not much that can be done without patches, but I doubt Microsoft would put out an install that had such big component bugs. The computers I fixed were unfunctional with RAM at 100%, and the issues were recent as the computer owners had the models for over a year with no restores.

I already have no doubt that it is hardware based because even when I match up the software the bug does not exist on all machines. It is a specific build of SP1 with specific updates. I tested on RTM as well and most of the updates are not even the same.
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12 Jul 2015   #77
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I had an AMD phenom quad 2.4ghz 9500 that never worked with any version of Windows. It finally worked ok with W10, but for years I had to use Linux on it because all the systems were too buggy. That processor actually has a lot of conflicting reviews online, but with Linux it was like a train trucking data.

I got the 1k pc for cheap cheap cause the Vista system on it was garbage, filled RAM and drive read/write at 100% due to update bugs, old files, etc. Some PC's are just tough, as we know, because they have to update bad processors all the time..

I will admit Windows 10 is nice, and is far more functional than any of the previous systems. If you have not tried it you might want to pick up the preview CD and try it, it is free; it comes out later this year. They are taking after Linux, and even working in the Linux languages into Visual Studio.
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12 Jul 2015   #78
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Nedly, I don't think it has anything to do with SP1 as I have a very old CD with win 7 pro SP1 that I have used on both the problem machine and my laptop that does not have the problem. I do believe you may be on to something about it being a hardware specific issue as I know my Intel based laptop that I did a system rebuild with the cd with the old copy of win 7 pro does not have the problem but my AMD based system that I did a rebuild with the same CD does. Just another point of confusion I think.
Doing nothing on my problem computer the memory for the svchost process is now at 30 KK memory, started at 9KK.
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12 Jul 2015   #79
Callender

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Okay I think that this thread and other similar threads might take some time to resolve. Hopefully someone will find a solution.

Take a look at the following post about SP1:

svchost.exe using almost all available random access memory after boot

Also check these two posts:

SVCHOST.EXE(netsvc) taking up all memory on a freshly formatted system

Svchost.exe High memory usage at startup

Re: Windows 10. I've tried it and quite like it but will not be wanting to use it for at least six months to a year after it's been released. That should be enough time to iron out any serious bugs!

Will check this thread tomorrow.
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12 Jul 2015   #80
Nedly

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ripsw View Post
Nedly, I don't think it has anything to do with SP1 as I have a very old CD with win 7 pro SP1 that I have used on both the problem machine and my laptop that does not have the problem. I do believe you may be on to something about it being a hardware specific issue as I know my Intel based laptop that I did a system rebuild with the cd with the old copy of win 7 pro does not have the problem but my AMD based system that I did a rebuild with the same CD does. Just another point of confusion I think.
Doing nothing on my problem computer the memory for the svchost process is now at 30 KK memory, started at 9KK.

Well you said it! It is what it is, tests don't lie. If the same cd has separate such as yours on different machines, then it is hard to debunk the hardware theory. But it still stumps me as to the recent increase in the issue, including the machines I checked out. Though, I am pretty certain they were all AMD as well, so there is a chance that there are two levels of conflict, one with the usual bag cpu's, and another with some recent updates on specific AMD systems...

I would be curious to see a different system run on it. Sadly Windows does not offer much for "Live Systems", so installs are always necessary.

If it is an absolute conflict of your hardware type, the best of your solutions will most likely be to choose a different operating system given that all other paths from chipset drivers to BIOS upgrades have been performed.
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