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Windows 7: Why Upgrade to Windows 10?

14 Jun 2015   #61
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Thinking about it I have several spare SSD's and to avoid losing anything I might just reinstall the same OEM onto the cleaned up spare drive then whip the 10 onto it. If I don't really like it then it will not have cost me anything eh? Because I am curious as to why it is apparently so good when as before 7 was the be all and end all.


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14 Jun 2015   #62
Arc

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Microsoft Windows 10 Pro Insider Preview 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
Yep I will Archie it is just the 8 "look" that I am not fond of but I suppose I should try all the same.
I also was not very fond of that 8 look, but the start menu with live tiles is not very bad. I like it how it puts those things together at a glance.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
Thinking about it I have several spare SSD's and to avoid losing anything I might just reinstall the same OEM onto the cleaned up spare drive then whip the 10 onto it. If I don't really like it then it will not have cost me anything eh? Because I am curious as to why it is apparently so good when as before 7 was the be all and end all.
Simple. Do as stated in Download Windows 10 Insider Preview ISO - Microsoft Windows .... if you like it, keep it there. It will be automatically upgraded to RTM when the time will come. If you dont like, format the SSD. No cost involved there.
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14 Jun 2015   #63
GokAy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

So we can get a free copy without updating our Win7's? I guess it would be the Home version when time comes?
Will the current Win7 installs be able to co-exist (dual boot?) with W10 if we take the offer? Does it make the W7 product keys invalid after upgrade? Questions questions ...
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14 Jun 2015   #64
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GokAy View Post
So we can get a free copy without updating our Win7's? I guess it would be the Home version when time comes?
Will the current Win7 installs be able to co-exist (dual boot?) with W10 if we take the offer? Does it make the W7 product keys invalid after upgrade? Questions questions ...
GokAy
Here is what I am interpreting from tweet that thrashzone posted.

If you have preview build install and upgrade to RTM you won't need the windows 7 keys, but I think you have to keep testing the builds. I am not sure if testers will be able to turn off the monitoring of their computers with the RTM upgrade. Yet to be determined.

If you upgrade from windows 7 to rtm you will need your key and in some cases you may need to call Microsoft to activate. Mine is an oemslp key, so I would have to use the key on the back of the computer to upgrade. I might need to call Microsoft and explain the different installs I did when digital rivers was available and that my motherboard was replaced under warranty.
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14 Jun 2015   #65
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GokAy View Post
So we can get a free copy without updating our Win7's? I guess it would be the Home version when time comes?
Will the current Win7 installs be able to co-exist (dual boot?) with W10 if we take the offer? Does it make the W7 product keys invalid after upgrade? Questions questions ...
One thing you might keep in mind is some of us joined the insiders program in 10/1/14
All my installs have never covered a 7 install although twice I installed as a dual boot which was a mistake imho,
Every iso released after was on it's own hdd or ssd and never was connected while another os was connected,
My old mother board only has 1 sata port anyway so I got a dual ssd hot swap evo case to switch out os's installed on separate drives.

The longer you wait the less likely it will be an option but you never know but hurts nothing to try a oem of win 10 pro is valued by M$ as 199.99us
If the tweet is correct it is a savings of that much just for installing 10tp in it's own environment.
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14 Jun 2015   #66
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

Thrashzone.
It easier to dual & triple boot with drives under 1000 GB and use MBR instead of GPT at least for me.
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14 Jun 2015   #67
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Arc View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
Yep I will Archie it is just the 8 "look" that I am not fond of but I suppose I should try all the same.
I also was not very fond of that 8 look, but the start menu with live tiles is not very bad. I like it how it puts those things together at a glance.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
Thinking about it I have several spare SSD's and to avoid losing anything I might just reinstall the same OEM onto the cleaned up spare drive then whip the 10 onto it. If I don't really like it then it will not have cost me anything eh? Because I am curious as to why it is apparently so good when as before 7 was the be all and end all.
Simple. Do as stated in Download Windows 10 Insider Preview ISO - Microsoft Windows .... if you like it, keep it there. It will be automatically upgraded to RTM when the time will come. If you dont like, format the SSD. No cost involved there.
Ok I have got that now so I really only have time to try until the RTM comes out and after that time I have to keep the 10 and plug on with it.
Actually Arc I think my plan of using another drive might be the way to go it's going to cost me nothing as well.

I suppose like a lot of folks it is change that we do not particularly like and the 7 is simple you have to admit. What put me off track in the first place was 8 and frankly I thought it was awful and the only saving grace was the Classic Shell or Stardock that made it uncomplicated for me at least - I just did not like those panels and apps etc - ok for androids but my larger machines - no way. Plus as for the touch screen stuff on large machines well I find them grubby on my Samsung phone and tablet and that is quite enough for me.
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14 Jun 2015   #68
GokAy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Why do you think like this?
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twice I installed as a dual boot which was a mistake imho
I do have plenty of space on my OS SSD, I could install there. But wonder the reasoning of above comment. I do have a spare empty HDD but not sure if I want to go back to a HDD now
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14 Jun 2015   #69
gregrocker

 

I've had no problem with a Dual Boot. I rarely go back to Windows 7 so eventually just delete it, but there isn't a reason I've seen not to shrink 7 to Clean Install Windows 10 Technical Preview.

In fact that's exactly what I'd do if necessary to be sure I get the TP upgraded to free RTM rather than involve the Windows 7 license.

We don't know yet how the 7 key will be affected, but if it's like the upgrade from XP>Vista>7>8 then the qualifying key was never deactivated or even required - the installer only needed to see any OS on the drive to allow Upgrade version. All of it was done on the honor system.

But let's say that the 10 RTM licenses the BIOS, or worst case records and then suspends the 7 key. This may affect how the TP needs to be installed (e.g. on a separate hard drive) to avoid affecting your Windows 7 key.
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14 Jun 2015   #70
HP Win7 User

Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Forkbeard View Post
I'm eligable for the free update to Windows 10 and am unsure as to whether to go for it or not. My Windows 7 installation works flawlessly and I'm happy with it. Are there any reasons to/or not to upgrade? I can't see many benefits. I tried Windows 8/.1 for a while and hated it. The start screen and charm bar etc was pointless on the desktop.
I always say, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. 7 in my opinion is Microsoft's last good OS. It's also the last one that we can really say is "Windows-y" with the Start Menu and My Documents and whatnot. I don't know much else about it, but my advice is always to play it safe and stay away from these "cloud"-type OSes. This one just happens to use Telemetry (Customer Experience spyware) by default, which your 7 system gets "prepped" for with an update, KB2952664. Looks like 10 is nothing more than an NSA honeypot.

If you want to get rid of the update program, delete the folder C:\Windows\System32\GWX, which stands for Get Windows 10, the "X" being the Roman Numeral for 10 (as usual, guess who else used that naming convention), and uninstall the Windows Update KB3035583 (uninstall KB2952664 and delete all tasks in Task Scheduler under Microsoft\Windows\Application Experience and Microsoft\Windows\Customer Experience Improvement Program if you want to get rid of Telemetry -- which, if you're at all concerned about your privacy, you should). If either of these come up again in Update, hide 'em for good.

Otherwise, they'll keep coming back like a couple of bad cold sores you can't get rid of.
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