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Windows 7: shutting down vs. sleep mode

11 Jul 2015   #1
tonyvella

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shutting down vs. sleep mode

I have an HP EliteBook 8440p with Win 7 Pro.

Every evening before I go to bed I shut down my computer and reboot it in the morning. My neighbour insists that shutting down and booting does more damage and causes more problems to a pc than putting it in sleep mode when not in use even right through the night. In other words, more or less, never shutting the machine down from the initial boot when you buy it and bring it home.

So I ask the experts on this forum: What is better to do, shut the machine down at night and reboot in the morning; or put it in sleep mode overnight?

Any advice appreciated in advance.
Thanks and regards.


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11 Jul 2015   #2
Boozad

W7 Pro x64 SP1 | W10 Pro IP x64 | W8.1 Pro x64 VM | Linux Mint VM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tonyvella View Post
My neighbour insists that shutting down and booting does more damage and causes more problems to a pc than putting it in sleep mode when not in use even right through the night.
Ask him exactly what damage and problems it causes, he's talking through his arse.
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11 Jul 2015   #3
tonyvella

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He thinks that the on and off, on and off shortens the life of the hard drive.
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11 Jul 2015   #4
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi
lol I doubt it I've done it on every machine I've owned and they are just as good if not better than when I bought them
Of course now I'm on ssd's for the most part but it's a nonissue shutting down every night or many times a day

My hdd's were not failing after 6+ years of doing the same thing
I much prefer shut down to hibernate or hybrid sleep of which the hybrid stuff is disabled
There are far more cases of issues with hibernate than with complete shut down I assure you
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11 Jul 2015   #5
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

The choice is yours, sleep is never really shutting it off, and no way does shutting it down hurt it.

What if you were not to use it for 2 or 3 days, would you rather have it sleeping, using electricity, or would you rather have it completely shut down ?
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11 Jul 2015   #6
LMiller7

Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Many millions of people turn their computer on each morning and turn it off at night and have done so for years with no problems whatsoever. They were designed for this. There are no technical issues with doing this.

It would probably be best to follow this practice unless you have a specific reason for doing otherwise.
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11 Jul 2015   #7
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by tonyvella View Post
He thinks that the on and off, on and off shortens the life of the hard drive.
That's mostly a myth rather than true, coming from a time where hard drives were much more unreliable than today. Nowadays the vast majority of times powering down and turning it on again is totally innocuous, including mechanical hard disks and coolers.

There is a little truth in that phrase. Repeating turning off and on most mechanical machines (not just computers) incurs some minimal wearing on it and when that's done repeatedly it might cause some diminution in the lifespan of the device, but that's under extreme conditions.

Shutting the computer down and turning it on 5 minutes after is certainly abuse and doing that many times might wear the device. Powering down on night and use it again the next day is totally normal and expectable operation that is taken into account when the manufacturer estimates the average lifespan of drives.

The decision to leave it on or power off should come from other factors, like if the computer is left doing some overnight work, if you want a fast turn on afterwards or something like that. Hardware damage is not practically a factor in this.
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11 Jul 2015   #8
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

I don't use Sleep or Hibernation and don't understand why one would.
Todays computer start so fast their really isn't any need.

I haven't use this computer for 4 hours. I shut it down completely and started it again a few minutes ago. No power what so ever to the computer or anything hooked to it. I have been doing it this way for many years without it causing problems on any of my computers.

A computer without power can't get hurt. If starting a computer a few times a day hurts the hard drive then you don't have a shut down problem, you have a hard drive problem. Which I never have had.

Their are also good things that happen when a computer is shut down and started.
Cleans out the ram and many unneeded temp files and reloads drivers.
Kind of a fresh start for Windows 7 and it likes it.

Some people like Sleep and Hibernation because of the few seconds it saves. I can only think of a few times in my life that a few seconds one way or the other meant anything and it wasn't using a computer.

I also don't let my car idle to save the few seconds it saves to start the car.
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12 Jul 2015   #9
tonyvella

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So I have been doing it right from the get-go. That's a surprise. Thank you all for peace of mind.
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12 Jul 2015   #10
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Only a few utilities like defragment hard drive are scheduled for I believe 2-3am
So if you manually defragment your hard drive once a month you don't have to worry about that maintenance schedule.

Another thing about shutting down at night is when windows updates need to restart... you'll know it
The people that never shut down usually have updates waiting to fully install and don't ever notice the shield on the start menu list.

Post what type/ brand hard drive you have.
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