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Windows 7: Windows 10 Upgrade Problems Pertaining to System Reserved Partition

30 Jul 2015   #1
Sturmgewehr44

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
 
 
Windows 10 Upgrade Problems Pertaining to System Reserved Partition

Hello! I just joined and look forward to (hopefully) helping others and maybe being helped myself.

My system drive, a Samsung 850 Evo, was cloned from an older SSD a few months ago. Today, I attempted upgrade to Windows 10, since I am eligible (running Windows 7 Pro 64 bit). The taskbar icon, which disappeared, is up again at the time of writing, and I have reserved an upgrade for myself, but I was recommended to just use the 'Media Creation Tool': https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

I launched it, it downloaded. Everything went well, until I was notified that my reserved partition could not be updated.

"We couldn't update the system partition"

Now, until then I had two reserve partitions. I deleted one (E:, as seen in the picture below), because it was a remnant of an older backup Windows install on one of my HDD, and not an actual, functioning system partition. The system partition in this case, was 'Data' located on my SSD (C. When I looked in Disk Management to see what could have yielded such an error, I realised that the partition only had 7 MB (7%) of it's storage left. This, in turn, should be the cause of the error(s). I assume part of this lack of system partition space was due to Samsung's Data Migration software, of which I used to clone my old SSD over to my current one. How can I solve all of this??

Picture of Disk Management: http://i.imgur.com/Vu2Ahri.jpg

Thanks if you got this far through my block of text!!

-Sturm


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30 Jul 2015   #2
gregrocker

 

Something has written to the SysRserved partition, possibly some lame imaging program. This often happens when it has a letter. But I see the SysReserved without the letter is now the one that's booting C as signified by the SYstem flag. So it's a mystery, but one which doesn't need any more time wasted on it since SysReserve is totally disposable as we've helped do here countless thousands of times.

So move the Bootmgr - Move to C:\ with EasyBCD - Windows 7 Forums
then delete System Reserved in DIsk Mgmt. Unplug all other hard drives to try the Upgrade again.

I would save a WIN7 backup image externally of C in case you want to roll back and it doesn' t work or has run out of rollback time. We are waiting to see exactly how these things work in real time. Macrium Imaging - Windows 7 Help Forums

A couple of suggestions. Never use an old OS hard drive for data without first deleting its partitions at the minimum or ideally wiping it with Diskpart Clean Command to clear old boot code which can often interfere later.

Secondly, I'd have the OS drive plugged into DISK0 cable so no repairs, reinstall or UPgrade can derail the Boot files to the first-in-order Primary partition as we see happen a lot. That and it's always best to have all other hard drives unplugged during these operations anyway to be safest.

Let us know how you like WIndows 10 and how these things go so we can pass on what you learn.
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30 Jul 2015   #3
Sturmgewehr44

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
 
 

I am certain the Samsung cloning crap infested the system partition.

However, I am not overall very comfortable with messing with the mbr and boot tables and that sort of stuff.

Is there anyway I can get rid of the junk in the system partition without getting rid of it altogether?

I have a backup image from two-three months ago of C:

I think I mentioned it OP, but I got rid of the placebo system reserve (E:) partition. It was for some old install a few years back.

Why is the system partitions even needed? Do I lose access to anything by getting rid of the partitioned 100MB? Is it more stable to do away with it?

Edit: Looking at the bootmgr migration steps, it does not look too complicated. Instructions are a bit simple for my blood. Do you mind spelling it out for me? I'm sorry that I'm a little slow, lol.

Oh, and I'm not aiming at a clean install, I plan on doing the lazy route, just the simple upgrade. Would disabling Sata connections to drives temporarily be ideal in this case?
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31 Jul 2015   #4
gregrocker

 

You can disable the other hard drives in BIOS set up, but it's easier to just reach in and pull the data cables off of each while power down.

I don't know how to make the steps any simpler than in the tutorial. It makes no difference whether you have the system reserved or not.

The manual method we use is to Mark C partition active in disk management, power down to boot into 7 disc or repair CD to run start up repair three separate times.
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31 Jul 2015   #5
Sturmgewehr44

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
 
 

I just followed those steps. Haven't rebooted yet.

The 100MB partition is still appearing in Disk Management. IS this normal? EasyBCD said it was copied to C: successfully.

Should I just get rid of the 'Data' partition now?
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31 Jul 2015   #6
gregrocker

 

Why wouldn't the 100mb still be there? I said once C boots and holds System Active flags then you can delete it in Disk Mgmt.

Then post back another screenshot. This time attach it using blue Manage Attachments button in reply box.
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31 Jul 2015   #7
WillonlyuseOnce

windows 8.1 64
 
 

Hi I have the same problem as him, just wanna know if the steps you providing should be the same for windows 8.1? And if this thread is a good solution aswell. https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/c...ved_partition/
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31 Jul 2015   #8
Sturmgewehr44

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Why wouldn't the 100mb still be there? I said once C boots and holds System Active flags then you can delete it in Disk Mgmt.

Then post back another screenshot. This time attach it using blue Manage Attachments button in reply box.
It's done. I deleted that partition. It was given a letter and C: became the system partition, as expected. I just wanted to verifiy that it had no further uses.

I'm running Windows 10 Pro 64 bit now. It is pretty good so far. I never really learned how to use Windows 8 or 8.1 so some components I'm not very used to, but so far it is exciting and fun and easy to navigate!

On a side note, should most of my drivers (motherboard, wireless adapter, etc.) be updated automatically? They all work fine, I just get some weird start up errors for my Asus PCE-AC68 wireless adapter software. It works fine otherwise. I just needed to reinstall the latest Nvidia driver and everything is great. Should everything else driver wise be alright though (I also needed to reinstall my headset drivers, I was missing sound briefly).

Anyway, thanks so much for assisting me with this! If I didn't sign up and post here, I would've still been confusing myself over all these errors. Thanks again!

~Sturm
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31 Jul 2015   #9
gregrocker

 

Type Windows update in start search box to see if your Important or Optionals need goosing. Wait to see what drivers 10 wants before importing any.

Type Troubleshoot in Start Search box to run Network and wireless Troubleshooters.

Did 10 configure a Dual Boot With 7? If not install EasyBCD to 10 to add 7 by drive letter. Let us see Disk Mgmt.
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01 Aug 2015   #10
Sturmgewehr44

Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
 
 

I don't know. Is Windows 10 supposed to dual boot with 7?

That could explain why I have 20GBs on the Windows 10 install and another 20 on top of that for old Windows 7.

Should my motherboard drivers/etc. work okay? It seems like it, but cannot know for sure at this point. All games and apps appear to work without a hitch.
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