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Windows 7: Record attendance today at 7F!

30 Jul 2015   #11
gregrocker

 

I just posted these fresh questions up to MVP communications channel with WIndows 10 team. Will report back here what I hear.


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31 Jul 2015   #12
Joan Archer

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32 bit/Windows 10 64bit
 
 

I can't remember where but I read that you could revert back to your previous OS within the first month of installing 10 if you wanted to.

I will upgrade my 8.1.1 Asus Notebook when it finally tells me it's ready but my 7 desktop didn't get the upgrade icon so I'm assuming it's not compatible, it's getting on a bit it came with Vista. I have a retail 7 license which I put onto it which was upgrade to Ultimate a while back.

I do like 10 been playing with it in a VM.
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31 Jul 2015   #13
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Just my opinion.
I will not trust Microsoft with one of my Windows 7 COA key for going to Windows 10.

It's obvious to me Microsoft is playing games to hook people into Windows 10 and making it as hard as they can to go back to Windows 7 with proper activation.

Folks Microsoft is playing hard ball. They don't want another Windows 8.

They will kick millions in the Acorns if that is what is need to get people to Windows 10 and stay their.
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31 Jul 2015   #14
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Yep way too many vague terms
One would guess that the 20 days is referring to 10's system restore but again a win 7 key is worth more than a guess
I bailed on the 10tp program I didn't feel right using a M$ account.
It's local account or not at all.
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31 Jul 2015   #15
paul1149

Linux Lite 2.8 x64 (full-featured, fast, rock-solid)
 
 

LB: Very incisively stated. It's interesting how brutally MS comes down on the Western license holder, but in vast markets such as China, has the explicit policy of leaving pirates alone. It's even been said that our collective dependence on Windows constitutes a national security vulnerability. Were I looking for a suitable charitable cause, I certainly would consider WINE.
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31 Jul 2015   #16
gregrocker

 

Is there any evidence they won't let 7 keys be retrieved for long?

With 7 the qualifying XP Or Vista key wasn't even disabled. It was on the honor system. I was told this was due to courts ruling they cannot take your property away if you decide you don't want to trade up, and that to try to keep track of all this risked running massively afoul of case law on Software property rights which can be different from one country to the next.

I asked a MS exec if the oft-quoted rule were true that MS remains the OS owner while we are merely licensed to use it. He smirked and said "Good luck convincing a court of that when there's a sales receipt that precedes the EULA agreement." I've always thought this is why they are trying so hard to move their business model to subscription monthly rental.
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31 Jul 2015   #17
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

I don't see how if you have a reliable system image to go back to or original install media and key :/
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31 Jul 2015   #18
gregrocker

 

it may not be as easy as restoring 7 with activated image if 10 has somehow overridden it in BIOS. Is there some way they are confidently disabling qualifying 7/8 key once used to upgrade to 10?

Since 10 activation is via BIOS and therefore hardware locked, how is the qualifying 7/8 locked out, or is it?
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31 Jul 2015   #19
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

? M$ messing with bios is a scary thing
I'm more interested in what happens online when you use that to activate windows on clean install

Then you get to the daily activation confirmation in system will that bug out eventually because the online verify has been tagged as upgraded :/ then throws an error.

Nobody wants to call M$ and get the 10 sells pitch
I called about the M$ mouse and keyboard update they kept pushing to my laptop that was killing the touchpad section of mouse properties
Everyone knows once that section is gone fine tuning a touchpad is impossible
Except for silly M$ employs on the other end of the line
That conversation went well
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31 Jul 2015   #20
gregrocker

 

I wish I wasn't traveling and could test some of these upgrade activations to see exactly how they work, especially every possible rollback and retrieval of 7 key.
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