How long should my Win7 laptop last?

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  1. Posts : 88
    Windows 7
       #1

    How long should my Win7 laptop last?


    In 2012, I bought my first laptop for the convenience of using it anywhere with Wi-Fi. Prior to that, I always used desktops which lasted a minimum of five years, but became so out-of- date and slow that it was less expensive to purchase a new desktop than update an older system which was beyond my expertise. The cost to pay someone else (labor, parts, software), at least at the time, was almost the cost of a new, off-the-shelf pc using my older monitor. Now, after three years, my laptop keyboard types the wrong characters, the online keyboard worked a week before it started doing the same thing, the Start menu flashes on and off, the scroll bar rolls to the bottom and is stuck there. Fortunately, I back up regularly. The keyboard problem started a week ago, but everything else worked so I ran another backup yesterday. The other problems started today. I have run the troubleshooter, system restore to an earlier time, ran my anti-virus programs, nothing has helped. However, I've noticed that if I shut it down and let it cool down, it will work except for the keyboard, for an hour or so before it becomes too warm and all of the problems start again. At some point, it probably won't turn on at all.

    I hoped my laptop would last at least as long as my desktops as I did not expect to have to purchase a new one after three years.

    Because of these problems, I am using my Kindle Fire to send this message.

    My laptop is a Lenovo N580 64-bit with Windows 7 Home Premium.

    Thanks. Jane
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  2. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #2

    Hi,
    64 bit laptops I'm usually not a fan of because they usually have inadequate cooling to start
    Laptops also are best with ssd's because they produce no heat

    I guess this is the laptop
    https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/documents/pd025641
    Which there are a few options listed here that are unknown to your machine Intel or amd cpu..

    I've had a little M-series Gateway for now 6 years and it works very well but it is 32 bit 7 home premium with an added ssd and it's never worked better after a clean install
    So it's all luck of the draw and research system spec's which I've never been a fan of H-P or Lenovo
    Couldn't afford Dell at that time

    I've found also a machine will work good or bad just by selecting security
    Windows friendly security will do more good than most people think
    What do you use for security ?
    MSE and Malwarebytes Premium is a great combination.
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  3. Posts : 88
    Windows 7
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Do you mean solid state drive? I find that acronyms can have more than one meaning which I am asking.

    I don't understand what you mean by "Which there are a few options listed here that are unknown to your machine Intel or amd cpu.." If the options are listed, how can they be unknown?

    As for 32-bit machines, I found that some software will not work well or not at all on 32-bit, but will on 64-bit.
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  4. Posts : 88
    Windows 7
    Thread Starter
       #4

    My security is MS Security Essentials. I run it daily.
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  5. Posts : 2,497
    Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
       #5

    Heat is a big killer of laptops. In the confined space and limited ventilation common in laptops heat is difficult to dissipate and temperatures can easily reach unacceptable levels. They should always be operated on a hard flat surface and ensure that vents are never blocked.

    The design priorities of a laptop are low weight, low power consumption, while still providing reasonable performaance. Price is also a major consideration and in many cases the deciding one. With these severe constraints low cost is difficult to achieve and reliability tends to suffer.
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  6. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #6

    Hi,
    Yes solid state drive

    Use cpu-z and post screen shots of the cpu/ Main board/ and memory section of it
    CPUID
    The page I pulled up on the laptop was all of the options they offered it was nonspecific that came on your laptop.

    Software well 32 bit was around before 64 bit was so it's just a matter of getting the correct download of the program one needs
    Most 64 bit programs use more 32 bit processes it's just designed for compatibility for 64 bit processors.
    But developers made both versions 64 bit after.
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  7. Posts : 88
    Windows 7
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Hi, I do remember seeing a 32-bit folder along with the 64-bit while looking thru my c drive folder. My desktop is a 32 bit and no problems there other than replacing the power box a couple of times because I used it so much, and I was able to make that change myself. Do you think my laptop can be saved? I've looked at refurbished ones with 64 bit that are "like new" as I don't want to purchase a brand new laptop right now. But I will consider 34 bits which are less expensive. Thanks. Jane
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  8. Posts : 12,012
    Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
       #8

    Janesdf said:

    I hoped my laptop would last at least as long as my desktops
    That's possible, but it's not the most likely outcome.

    Laptops have one advantage: portability.

    They have many disadvantages, all of which relate to design compromises made in the name of portability. Fragility, heat issues, prone to theft, underpowered, small screens, mediocre keyboards, slow drives, modest graphic performance, high initial cost, battery life, and so forth.

    They are notoriously difficult and expensive to repair. Few repairs can be done by a home user, compounding the problem. Desktops have a certain modularity that allows you to replace just the failed part, rather easily and inexpensively.

    Those who tolerate the shortcomings do so because the one advantage trumps the combined disadvantages. You have to confront that whenever you are considering a purchase.

    I've never owned one. My only portable electronic device is a TV remote control.
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  9. Posts : 89
    Win 7 Pro
       #9

    TPFanControl is a utility which allows you to monitor your CPU temperatures in realtime. It also allows you to control your fan speed. Many Thinkpad people use it and swear by it.

    It appears your keyboard is shot and needs replacing. The physical keyboard and onscreen keyboard ride in parallel, In other words you get input using either one simultaneously and the physical keyboard is taking over by malfunction. Using resources available on the internet you can locate a replacement keyboard and find a video tutorials explaining how to properly replace the keyboard and save yourself a lot of money. It is important to find a dependable and proper replacement keyboard for extended life. Careful research includes going on Thinkpad forums and just ask for help and opinions.

    Good luck.
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  10. Posts : 20,583
    Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
       #10

    Yes on a 64 bit machine the 32 bit folder is x86 the 64 bit is just Programs
    Same goes for a 32 bit system has just Programs folder.

    Used machines well that is not the greatest option you end up with other peoples problems similar to yours :)
    Clean Up Factory Bloatware
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