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Windows 7: Windows update just added a User to my PC, Do I need 2 plus guest?

13 Sep 2015   #11
GokAy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Way to go to break the OS to the point of no return!

Ok, so there were no real issues other than a disabled account being show in accounts section.

Administrator is a default built-in admin account, which is by default disabled.
Guest is by default disabled and built in also.
Your own account should be an admin account.

So the only remaining issue was why disabled admin account showed in accounts. Maybe because it got somehow activated. Anyway,

You can disable administrator with Option 2 of Built-in Administrator Account - Enable or Disable.

Page 11 of said tutorial. post #100 by Brink:
Quote:
You can't delete the built-in Administrator account. Instead you can only disable it as in the tutorial while logged in another administrator account



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13 Sep 2015   #12
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Sounds like you renamed the built in "Administrator" account which is not for general everyday use.
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You should be using a "User" account and you can give that account admin rights but it's not recommended.

What do you see if you go to:

Start> Run

then type netplziz

Edit: type netplwiz

Press Enter.

That shouls show a list of users and if you click on a user name and then select "Properties" then "Group Membership" you should see account type.


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13 Sep 2015   #13
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

In any event continue to follow Gokay's instuctions.
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13 Sep 2015   #14
BobKoz

Windows 7 Premium 64 Bit
 
 

GokAy - your comment:

Administrator is a default built-in admin account, which is by default disabled.
Guest is by default disabled and built in also.
Your own account should be an admin account.

I never saw the built-in Administrator account before the Windows update, so your saying it somehow got enabled?

Do you know of anyway I can rename it back to "Administrator"? I'm pissed that I renamed it "Admin-Bob", because now it won't let me rename it back to "Administrator"..

12 years on WinXP with no issues, this Win7 double administrator thing is kicking me in the butt..
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13 Sep 2015   #15
GokAy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Yep, I have both Guest and Administrator, actually everyone with Windows 7 do. It is just disabled.

The double admin thing is a safety measure if user mess up the accounts (due to misuse or malware etc) I believe. You don't need to run an admin account daily as Callender hinted. I prefer to do so, but I have my measures.

Well, try logging in with the Administrator (now Admin-Bob) and if it works, just disable it and remember the name if ever needed. We should be rename it back somehow, maybe others will advice something regarding this.
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13 Sep 2015   #16
BobKoz

Windows 7 Premium 64 Bit
 
 

GokAy,

netplwiz results:

[X] Users must enter a user name and password to use this computer

Users for this computer:
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Administrator HomeUsers; Administrators
BobsPC HomeUsers; Administrators
HomeGroupUser$ HomeUsers; Administrators

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1) GokAy., I was able to rename the 'Admin-Bob' back to 'Administrator' in netplwiz using properties.

2) I then Hid the built in Administrator using command prompt > net user administrator /active:no

3) Built in Administrator is not displayed in Control Panel/User Accounts anymore (fixed)

4) I tested with a shut down and cold boot and it opens directly into my User Account without any user options


Looks like you fixed all issues GokAy, thanks for all your help

Is it a security risk to set user account to Administrator, is it a security risk from Hackers (because no-one else physically touches my PC)?

Sorry for the delay, I wanted to double check everything,
Bob
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13 Sep 2015   #17
GokAy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Great news, good job Netplwiz proves to be useful these days.

I don't consider it a security risk, but it is safer to use a standard user for daily usage. There is no doubt about that. Add in the knowledge and experience level of the user too.
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13 Sep 2015   #18
BobKoz

Windows 7 Premium 64 Bit
 
 

I'm going to change it to "Standard" until I get more familiar with Win7, big change from XP..

Netplwiz did actually fix all my issues, I've kept a list of all your directions. I'll mark this thread as solved in a little while.

Thanks again for all your help, you know your stuff !
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13 Sep 2015   #19
torchwood

W7 home premium 32bit/W7HP 64bit/w10 tp insider ring
 
 

throws out what i was gonna say next,
which would have been
As your using Pro, and as MS is prepairing PC's for W10, maybe they introduced the additional admin account so that Network/Domain Contollers could deploy via remote desktop.

Roy
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13 Sep 2015   #20
GokAy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Well, I don't think you can change the admin account you use to a standard account. You will have to use a different admin.

So either:
- create another admin that you won't use other than to elevate your standard account
- or create another standard account to use, but this would require all user files to be moved etc

Not very familiar how others achieve this. Will wait for comments.
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