Vista + Seven = where's dual boot?


  1. Posts : 5
    Vista Home Edition x86 / Seven Ulimate x86
       #1

    Vista + Seven = where's dual boot?


    Hey guys,

    I've something going on in my PC with 3 partitions. I have one called C:/ where I have Windows Vista 32-bit (x86) installed, other called S:/ which is empty and the last one is N:/ where I have all my files like images, music, videos, etc... (wisely done so when I need to re-install OS, don't waste time burning all that files on dvd).

    Since I got one partition empty (S:/), I decided to give Windows 7 a try. Being a TechNet Plus subscriber, allowed me to get a free copy of Win7, which I downloaded and it was saved on C:/ partition.

    I know that's stupid and I've been slapping myself because of that but, I went to the downloaded files and hit twice on setup.exe. This means I didn't burned the .iso to a DVD

    Seven was sucessfully installed. After playing around with new features and graphics, I installed some Windows Updates and rebooted for the first time (since I installed it).

    DAMN, here starts the problem because when booting up, appeared the message on black screen saying "BOOTMGR IS COMPRESSED. HIT CTRL+ALT+DEL TO REBOOT". I totally forgot that my S:/ partition was compressed! And we all know that an OS partition should never be compressed. And then I slapped myself again.

    The weird thing is that I couldn't boot in Windows Vista, I hadn't that option. Since I didn't burned Win7 to a DVD (*slapping me again*) and I couldn't start in Vista, I had to insert a modified Vista DVD by Toshiba (that came with PC when I bought it), this means that I don't have the repair option, I'm only able to format and re-install OS (and that sucks!), ..., and now it is fixed, that "bootmgr is compressed" message is gone which allowed me to boot to WinVista but where's dual boot??!

    First thing I done when I got Vista back was uncompressing S:/ partition. Then I went to msconfig, but there is only one OS in Boot tab - Windows Vista. Once C:/ partition was formatted, and Win7 Setup was saved there, I lost those files, I need to download them again. But it is already installed, so there has to be a way to fix this. The problem is that I can't load Win7, I don't have that option while booting...

    Anyone knows how to fix this? The OS is there, only is not recognized
    Sorry for my english, sometimes it sounds good but it's totally wrong LOL

    Thanks in advance.
    Narciso
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  2. Posts : 11,840
    64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
       #2

    Run a repair install?? This is the first time Ive heard of that error..
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  3. Posts : 28,845
    Win 8 Release candidate 8400
       #3

    narciso said:
    Hey guys,

    I've something going on in my PC with 3 partitions. I have one called C:/ where I have Windows Vista 32-bit (x86) installed, other called S:/ which is empty and the last one is N:/ where I have all my files like images, music, videos, etc... (wisely done so when I need to re-install OS, don't waste time burning all that files on dvd).

    Since I got one partition empty (S:/), I decided to give Windows 7 a try. Being a TechNet Plus subscriber, allowed me to get a free copy of Win7, which I downloaded and it was saved on C:/ partition.

    I know that's stupid and I've been slapping myself because of that but, I went to the downloaded files and hit twice on setup.exe. This means I didn't burned the .iso to a DVD

    Seven was sucessfully installed. After playing around with new features and graphics, I installed some Windows Updates and rebooted for the first time (since I installed it).

    DAMN, here starts the problem because when booting up, appeared the message on black screen saying "BOOTMGR IS COMPRESSED. HIT CTRL+ALT+DEL TO REBOOT". I totally forgot that my S:/ partition was compressed! And we all know that an OS partition should never be compressed. And then I slapped myself again.

    The weird thing is that I couldn't boot in Windows Vista, I hadn't that option. Since I didn't burned Win7 to a DVD (*slapping me again*) and I couldn't start in Vista, I had to insert a modified Vista DVD by Toshiba (that came with PC when I bought it), this means that I don't have the repair option, I'm only able to format and re-install OS (and that sucks!), ..., and now it is fixed, that "bootmgr is compressed" message is gone which allowed me to boot to WinVista but where's dual boot??!

    First thing I done when I got Vista back was uncompressing S:/ partition. Then I went to msconfig, but there is only one OS in Boot tab - Windows Vista. Once C:/ partition was formatted, and Win7 Setup was saved there, I lost those files, I need to download them again. But it is already installed, so there has to be a way to fix this. The problem is that I can't load Win7, I don't have that option while booting...

    Anyone knows how to fix this? The OS is there, only is not recognized
    Sorry for my english, sometimes it sounds good but it's totally wrong LOL

    Thanks in advance.
    Narciso
    if the files are truely there the fix is simple. You need to use bcdedit to modify the boot loader. instructions here BCDEDIT - How to Use

    Hope this helps and let us know if you need help with it

    Ken
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  4. Posts : 5
    Vista Home Edition x86 / Seven Ulimate x86
    Thread Starter
       #4

    @Tews: Like I said, I don't have the setup files to install it again, they were saved on C:/ partition, which was formatted, remember?

    @zigzag3143: Thanks for replying. I tried that, I don't know if I changed it well, I think not because now I've got a different scenario. While booting, appears dual boot mode now, but when I select Windows 7, I get a message about winload.exe and asks me to insert the dvd-rom (which I don't have). In the bottom of the screen:

    File: \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    Status: 0xc0000428
    Info: Windows cannot verify the digital signature for this file


    Here I leave a pic I took with my cellphone, so you can see what I'm talking about:
    https://www.sevenforums.com/attachmen...1&d=1258124559

    Any ideas?
    Narciso.



    EDIT: Here's my BCD :/

    Gestor de Arranque do Windows
    -----------------------------
    identificador {bootmgr}
    device partition=S:
    description Windows Boot Manager
    locale en-US
    inherit {globalsettings}
    default {default}
    displayorder {current}
    {default}
    toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
    timeout 30


    Carregador de Arranque do Windows
    ---------------------------------
    identificador {current}
    device partition=C:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows Vista
    locale en-US
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    osdevice partition=C:
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {e8709fb7-fa5f-11db-be4d-e219ece5282e}
    nx OptOut


    Carregador de Arranque do Windows
    ---------------------------------
    identificador {default}
    device partition=S:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows 7
    bootdebug No
    osdevice partition=S:
    systemroot \Windows
    nx OptOut



    "Carregador de Arranque do Windows" means "Windows boot loader", or something like that... (my Vista is in Portuguese-Portugal, Seven in English)
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Vista + Seven = where's dual boot?-13112009070.jpg  
    Last edited by narciso; 13 Nov 2009 at 10:25.
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  5. Posts : 334
       #5

    narciso said:
    @Tews: Like I said, I don't have the setup files to install it again, they were saved on C:/ partition, which was formatted, remember?

    @zigzag3143: Thanks for replying. I tried that, I don't know if I changed it well, I think not because now I've got a different scenario. While booting, appears dual boot mode now, but when I select Windows 7, I get a message about winload.exe and asks me to insert the dvd-rom (which I don't have). In the bottom of the screen:

    File: \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    Status: 0xc0000428
    Info: Windows cannot verify the digital signature for this file


    Here I leave a pic I took with my cellphone, so you can see what I'm talking about:
    https://www.sevenforums.com/attachmen...1&d=1258124559

    Any ideas?
    Narciso.



    EDIT: Here's my BCD :/

    Gestor de Arranque do Windows
    -----------------------------
    identificador {bootmgr}
    device partition=S:
    description Windows Boot Manager
    locale en-US
    inherit {globalsettings}
    default {default}
    displayorder {current}
    {default}
    toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
    timeout 30


    Carregador de Arranque do Windows
    ---------------------------------
    identificador {current}
    device partition=C:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows Vista
    locale en-US
    inherit {bootloadersettings}
    osdevice partition=C:
    systemroot \Windows
    resumeobject {e8709fb7-fa5f-11db-be4d-e219ece5282e}
    nx OptOut


    Carregador de Arranque do Windows
    ---------------------------------
    identificador {default}
    device partition=S:
    path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
    description Windows 7
    bootdebug No
    osdevice partition=S:
    systemroot \Windows
    nx OptOut



    "Carregador de Arranque do Windows" means "Windows boot loader", or something like that... (my Vista is in Portuguese-Portugal, Seven in English)
    Hi Narciso! Welcome to SevenForums! Try pressing F8 at that screen and then going to "Disable Driver Enforcement"
    That should let you boot up. From there try doing a repair install of Vista.

    ZeshanA
      My Computer


  6. Posts : 5
    Vista Home Edition x86 / Seven Ulimate x86
    Thread Starter
       #6

    @ZeshanA: Hi and thanks for answering. What you said is correct but my problem is booting Win7 and not WinVista, so if I select Windows Seven in dual-boot and then press F8, it will redirect me to the screen I attached before, asking about the signature, etc...

    I also tried the following:
    -> Going to S:/Windows/system32/winload.exe and right-click -> Properties. In the "Digital Signatures" tab, selected the only one listed and click "Detail" and then "View certified" and then "Install certified". It says it was installed sucessfully, but nothing is changed... I was thinking in replacing this winload.exe for the one I have on Vista's Windows folder... Is this a good idea? And how can I do that? Because it doesn't allow me to delete or change name/extension... :/ (I admit I didn't tried that in Safe Mode, maybe it works, but is this healthy replacing a Seven file for a Vista file? I mean, they're pretty similar but it may crash, dunno...)

    What do you think?
    Last edited by narciso; 13 Nov 2009 at 11:48.
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  7. Posts : 8
    windows 7
       #7

    You messed it up the first time so why don't you start all over from the beginning? Boot to Vista (you said that you now have an option to), burn the Win 7 to DVD, uncompressed (and if necessary format) the S drive/partition, then install the Win 7.
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  8. Posts : 5
    Vista Home Edition x86 / Seven Ulimate x86
    Thread Starter
       #8

    @jktan99: well, thanks... I already knew I could do that! The reason I came here it was because I wanted to find another way to repair that boot problem with Win7 without having to format and install it again...
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  9. Posts : 422
    windows 7 64 bit
       #9

    it's much easier to to a re-install it save time and a headache.....
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  10. Posts : 5
    Vista Home Edition x86 / Seven Ulimate x86
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Yeah, I know... I've done that, that's why I'm marking this as solved... The reason of this post was to know alternatives, because in this case I can download the files as many times I want from TechNet Plus, but what if I couldn't get the install files anymore? There has to be a way to fix this...

    Nevermind, it is fixed by my own...

    Special thanks to zigzag3143 and ZeshanA.
      My Computer


 

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