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Windows 7: Microsoft to users: You'll download Windows 10, and you'll like it

03 Dec 2015   #251
pupsealdeluxe

windows 7 premium 64 bit
 
 

I just got done with 1 of 2 builds im doing. and to get a Real lifetime disc copy of win7 i paid 250 bucks. for professional 64 and 32 bit. windows 7 has gone up ALOT in the past 6 to 9 months. windows 7 ultimate was 200 now its 400 to 450. that tells me there are a lots of folks who dont want thier xboxy intrusive win 10. and im one of them. my updates have been turned off since install under services [ really turned off ] . there are a few good short videos on youtube on how to really turn off your win 7 updates. it works but note i also had to turn my antivirus to manual updates or the darn thing turns the win 7 updates back on. trixie hobbiteszes


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03 Dec 2015   #252
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

The price increase is just as likely to be due to the sellers seeing an opening in the market due to Microsoft withdrawing easy access to Windows 7 installers and keys.

As with everything, else supply and demand is king - if the product is difficult to obtain it's time to raise the price - Economics 101, so should be expected.
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03 Dec 2015   #253
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pupsealdeluxe View Post
there are a few good short videos on youtube on how to really turn off your win 7 updates. it works but note i also had to turn my antivirus to manual updates or the darn thing turns the win 7 updates back on. trixie hobbiteszes
Hi,
Which antivirus does that I forgot to check your system spec's before asking incase it's listed there
But either way that is something I have never seen happen before from an antivirus program :/

Prices yep I expect you're referring to retail copies which have always run around the 200.us mark for home premium Pro well that one I never bought until yes 6-7 months ago any a oem/ system builders I got for 80.us
Just got another 7 pro 64 for 139.us from Newegg incase this 80.us one didn't activate which it did a few days ago so I just have a spare for another board

Win-10 well yep I'm not impressed either nothing new there I need or want free or not

Just looked BitDefender = good luck with that use Panda
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15 Apr 2016   #254
dustymars

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
Finally Took the Plunge

My 6-year old eMachine got the Windows 10 burn. After a few minor problems it works fine and I will keep it until it smokes. My wife will not change to Win-10, so I will have to try to keep up with WIn-7 stuff. Oh well. My next machine may be a laptop, but I still like thin-line desktops.
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15 Apr 2016   #255
Bertison

Windows 7/64 HPremium.
 
 

For me, it comes down to the complete ignorance and disrespect of the principle of Free Will by Microsoft. As a member of my country's Armed Forces for 12 years, I either stood against, or fought, the enemies of democracy and free will in more than one theatre. I did that as a volunteer soldier, not a conscript. That is the principle and viewpoint that repels me when Microsoft is trying to force this O/S upon my machines.

If Microsoft offers Windows 10 as a Full Retail disc, for me to own forever and use at my discretion, I would think again. That is the reality of the full copy of Windows 7 that I bought: I can uninstall it from one machine and use it on the next system I build or buy. Microsoft does not seem to understand the principle of ownership: when someone buys a car/washing machine/HiFi/ whatever, that person owns that item, until it either breaks down or they sell it on.
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15 Apr 2016   #256
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

You do not buy windows as an entity you buy a licence to use the software, Windows OS, on terms that you must agree to at the point of install. The Software is always sold in this form of service contract, not as goods. With all licences the type of licence is retained during upgrade to a new version of windows so the right to re-install after de-regestering on the first machine does not alter

If you get to a stage after ignoring the multiple warnings about upgrade and suitable dates, and actually find that your upgrade has started you simply decline the EULA and windows rolls back to what it was before. There are 3rd party methods to prevent update even on home versions
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15 Apr 2016   #257
Seffrid

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
If you get to a stage after ignoring the multiple warnings about upgrade and suitable dates, and actually find that your upgrade has started you simply decline the EULA and windows rolls back to what it was before. There are 3rd party methods to prevent update even on home versions
Unfortunately there are plenty of reports that the rollback doesn't always work properly, and as a result systems can be messedup by the unwanted upgrade - something that is not helped by the way in which Microsoft have gone against the established conventions by switching the EULA to the end of the installation process rather than allowing you to decline the upgrade before it's commenced.

I agree about the 3rd party methods to prevent updates in the first place, but they really shouldn't be necessary.
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15 Apr 2016   #258
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Looks like quite a few people not to happy with the latest round of win-10 updates
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...8-b5c5a69be530
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15 Apr 2016   #259
dustymars

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bertison View Post
For me, it comes down to the complete ignorance and disrespect of the principle of Free Will by Microsoft. As a member of my country's Armed Forces for 12 years, I either stood against, or fought, the enemies of democracy and free will in more than one theatre. I did that as a volunteer soldier, not a conscript. That is the principle and viewpoint that repels me when Microsoft is trying to force this O/S upon my machines.

If Microsoft offers Windows 10 as a Full Retail disc, for me to own forever and use at my discretion, I would think again. That is the reality of the full copy of Windows 7 that I bought: I can uninstall it from one machine and use it on the next system I build or buy. Microsoft does not seem to understand the principle of ownership: when someone buys a car/washing machine/HiFi/ whatever, that person owns that item, until it either breaks down or they sell it on.

Wow, I beat the draft in 1960 when my DI told me while in boot camp that the Army couldn't have me, I was already in the Air Force Spent 8 years doing that. BTW, thanks for your service.
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15 Apr 2016   #260
Vocalpoint

Windows 7 Professional SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bertison View Post
Microsoft does not seem to understand the principle of ownership: when someone buys a car/washing machine/HiFi/ whatever, that person owns that item, until it either breaks down or they sell it on.
Unfortunately - many do not seem to understand the principle of software licensing. We do not "own" anything - regardless if you have a disc or whatever methods you use to install. All you really have is license to use this product - one that Microsoft is allowing you to hold and one they control the usage of - as they see fit.

If they decide one day that your install key is no longer valid - and a new install of Windows 7 suddenly will not activate - there is little you can do about that.

I do agree with free will. I should have the ability to forever want to use my current "license" as I see fit.

But do not think for a moment that we actually own anything in this scenario.

VP
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