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Windows 7: Microsoft to users: You'll download Windows 10, and you'll like it

17 Apr 2016   #281
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

The original licence doesn't get fully deactivated/wiped out.
You should still be able to go back to your previous OS after the 30 day rollback period. Unless MS has changed something in the EULA for the free upgrade?
You "should" be able to go back to your older OS whenever you like, but you can't use both original licence and upgrade licence at the same time. Only one can be in use as the upgrade licence replaces the original licence when in use.


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18 Apr 2016   #282
Emmar

W 7 Home Premium
 
 

You talk about update settings, they mean nothing. MS can over ride them, they did on mine. They did not install W 10 but other updates did when I set it to "never". They can even enable updates if you disable them in services. Been there, done that. I tried W 10, reformatted back to W 7.
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18 Apr 2016   #283
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Emmar View Post
You talk about update settings, they mean nothing. MS can over ride them, they did on mine. They did not install W 10 but other updates did when I set it to "never". They can even enable updates if you disable them in services. Been there, done that. I tried W 10, reformatted back to W 7.
Now, now... you've already been told that MS is perfect:
Are you serious right now?(Windows 10 forced)


/jk
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18 Apr 2016   #284
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Emmar View Post
You talk about update settings, they mean nothing. MS can over ride them, they did on mine. They did not install W 10 but other updates did when I set it to "never". They can even enable updates if you disable them in services. Been there, done that. I tried W 10, reformatted back to W 7.
Emmar,
There are two services you have to disable, to prevent widows update from running at all and you need to reboot after doing that. I never came across an issue were Microsoft re-stared the service.
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18 Apr 2016   #285
Emmar

W 7 Home Premium
 
 

I did and they did enable them. I went to components/services, disabled them and went to the recovery section and opted for "take no action". I check those settings and one time they have been enabled again.

If there is something else please tell me what it is. I have not updated in a couple of years and my PC is working like it should.
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19 Apr 2016   #286
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Emmar View Post
You talk about update settings, they mean nothing. MS can over ride them, they did on mine. They did not install W 10 but other updates did when I set it to "never". They can even enable updates if you disable them in services. Been there, done that. I tried W 10, reformatted back to W 7.
Of course that they DON'T have any way to possibly change anything on your computer. Nothing, nobody can ever change any setting or file or anything else on your computer from the outside, not even MS.
Every change made to your computer (if there was really one to begin with) is made from within your own computer, so if the update settings changed, that was done by something running locally.

An example of this is the MSE installer that enables Windows Updates without user knowledge or consent. Another thing could be that the Windows 10 gets downloaded and your computer downgraded to it against your instructions, but that once again is done by software running on your computer (the GWX malware in this case), not something external to it.
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19 Apr 2016   #287
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alejandro85 View Post
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an example of this is the mse installer that enables windows updates without user knowledge or consent.
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19 Apr 2016   #288
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Another good reason not to use MSE
I imagine just switching the updates settings would a better options to insure Optional/ Recommended updates were excluded from being mixed in with real Important updates.
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19 Apr 2016   #289
Emmar

W 7 Home Premium
 
 

I think that is just saying it a different way. MS does it whether it is done internally by an MS software or sent to my PC directly and they do it without my permission. Is the MSE you are speaking of the same one you use to get email, messenger, etc.? I use that software to route my Cox email to my computer. If it is I just need to get rid of it and use Cox's online email.
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19 Apr 2016   #290
Seffrid

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

I've used MSE for several years without it affecting my update setting (notify but do not download or install). You might have to check it on first installation of MSE but I've never heard of MSE changing the setting after that.

The way to avoid the update settings being changed without your knowing is to install GWX Control Panel and enable its monitor, that way if there is any attempt to alter the settings you will be prompted.
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