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Windows 7: I want to stick with W7 - 2020 workaround?

17 Mar 2016   #41
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hawkie View Post
The issue in 2020 will be the same as I am currently experiencing with XP.

It wont matter how much you wish to keep the old you will be forced to update just like I am as web browsers stop supporting the old operating systems along with AV

you will find over time things stop working and you will have to change no matter how deep you dig in.

I didnt move from 98 till I had to and I am still hanging on to XP until I can work out how to make 7 do as I want.

I am hating the new learning curve I am being forced to accept.

With luck the security issues will have been found and work arounds found before you have to upgrade to 10, regardless you will be forced to sooner or later
Agreed, and by 2020 they`re be another MS OS for us to complain about all over again, I hope.


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17 Mar 2016   #42
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

When a person has a problem with a mature OS like W7, they can usually search online and find info that tells them the fix or that there is no fix or find a documented workaround. It is just my guess, but I think that there are lots of people that solve their own problems with W7 without posting to any forums. The vast amount of documented issues reduces the number of negative W7 posts that we currently see here.

My post in that tutorial is what I would call a problem with W7 itself. This impacted dozens of computers at work. There is no fix from MS. Many hours were wasted before I figured out what was removing our shortcuts. Many more hours were spent looking for a workaround. Our IT staff could not figure it out. I'm not in IT and my hours spent chasing that down might reflect poorly on my troubleshooting skills :-(


As stated above W2k was a good OS and XP needed some time to become stable. I re-installed XP more often than W2k. We too skipped the W9x flavors and used NT instead for most things.


I'm not a fan of W7. It is measurably slower than XP or W2k for the work that I do. In fact, W7 is so much slower that I still run my scripts using several XP VMs.

There is not one single feature that W7 added that I needed to earn a living. However, there are several problems/changes/annoyances that W7 brought to my office. Explorer's navigation pane jumping is one that messed me up yesterday and I don't understand the why the Save As window needed a new/bigger minimum size. I don't plan on changing my scripts just to deal with that new size. The field where you enter file name in the Save As window changed behavior too. I had to change scripts to deal with that or they would fail. The breadcrumbs in the path field are a pain to script too.
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17 Mar 2016   #43
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

Of course 7 is slower then XP or 2K, look at their footprint compared to 7, if I could put XP on this machine, it would run circles around 7, but then I don`t use 7 for the same reasons that you use XP or 2K, so my GPU and my 32 GB of expensive memory would not get utilized

In my boredom learning experimenting days I would put XP on a 4GB core 2 duo machine and I could not believe how fast it was.
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17 Mar 2016   #44
edassange

W7 Home Premium x86 SP1 Build 7601
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by hawkie View Post
The issue in 2020 will be the same as I am currently experiencing with XP.

It wont matter how much you wish to keep the old you will be forced to update just like I am as web browsers stop supporting the old operating systems along with AV

you will find over time things stop working and you will have to change no matter how deep you dig in.
This is another concern, for me anyway.
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17 Mar 2016   #45
Emmar

W 7 Home Premium
 
 

I am a faithful W 7 user, but right now I am complaining about W7 and I am about ready to toss all 3 of my PC's W 7, W8 and W 8.1. I've never had this much trouble with any computer.

If it weren't for my desire to know things, any thing and every thing, I would drop the internet and just play games.
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17 Mar 2016   #46
Stevekir

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I am astonished. I always thought that if W7 is not updated every time MS sends out one, I would be at risk from some malware exploiting a weakness that has been discovered, which updates remove. Is it really true that updates can be ignored?

If so, why do MS offer regular updates, some described as "Critical"?
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17 Mar 2016   #47
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

They think they are doing something useful. But it will not keep real hard core malware away.
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21 Mar 2016   #48
Emmar

W 7 Home Premium
 
 

I think a change is a challenge I jump right in, but that changed a bit when W 8 came out. I think the libraries came out with W 7 and I tried them, music in it's folder photos where they belong. But I would find files in those folders that I did not put there, many files, so I quit using them. With W 8 I lost more control over how I set up my folders and with W 8.1 it got worse. Some of those folders can't even be permanently deleted, they come back. I still use 3 folders on my desktop, recycle, my computer and Emma's Stuff. I keep Emma's folder view as "list" and have the folders I use the most at the top of that list by adding AA in front of those 6 folders. It's very convenient for me.
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02 Oct 2016   #49
LAMBDA471

Windows 7
 
 

Sorry for necroing, but I wanted to leave my two cents nevertheless.

I'm also disappointed with Windows 10 after using it for 1 year straight with nothing else besides it. I went back to Windows 7 and plan on staying with it at least for a few more years.

But as I was browsing the Vivaldi browser forums, I stumbled on a thread of someone asking why they can't install the browser on XP SP3. Then I remembered that Vivaldi dropped Vista and XP support, since they are based on Chromium, which is based on Blink and blink also dropped support.

All of this got me thinking, sure, we can use Windows 7 past 2020, but how long until browsers (the most important program installed on an OS) stops supporting Windows 7? What then?

I know for a fact that 360 Total Security can still find and install updates for XP despite all support being ceased. So the same program or another one can probably find and install updates for Windows 7 after 2020, but even then when all major browsers drop their support for 7, then people will eventually be forced to Windows 10 or even Linux.

I will probably switch to Windows 10 (if they fix it in 3 years) or will give up my gaming and go to Linux.
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02 Oct 2016   #50
Bertison

Windows 7/64 HPremium.
 
 

View it as "Supply & Demand". If enough users such as you and I, are still using 7, how could the browsers not cater for us? They would be foolish to ignore a large enough market.
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