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Windows 7: What will you do when Windows 7 ends?

22 Mar 2016   #61
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Good post Jack,

I would split the enterprise category into two, the enterprise which would include large multinationals, National Governments, (education, Health Etc), National armed services Etc, and the second group would be what the UK know as SME (Small to Medium Enterprises), which are the small 1 to 100 employee companies,

The first group Microsoft will treat like everyone else does, just like The phone company, the electric and gas company, and indeed parts of the government, they will fawn over them adjust the workings of the OS for them - Why do they do this, simply because they are the majority market for everything, they certainly are for Microsoft, Even though they get great deals to keep cost down and support they are the market that does not run pirate software and orders not in tens or hundreds but thousands of units. The Software as a Service ideology actually appeals to them, they prefer a number of small developmental changes that can be integrated into their systems, rather than the major change every few years - The way they look at software is that as they lease the hardware why not the software.

The second group are valuable to Microsoft and the reason there is a pro version of each windows, they purchase software at a slight discount over the man in the street, and some use networks, with or without servers, but are normally not cash rich. Some even still share computers - especially if they are running a shift system for employees.

The Poke and Go, ( or Peek and Peck), consumer market is large but has never been a great cash cow for any Tech company, as most of this group purchase a computer with OS from one of the big Box Shifting OEMs, and these OS copies are heavily discounted almost down to cost level - the Home versions of windows are designed for this market - simple to use, automatic everything, a consumer product similar to a washing machine or TV, Can anyone remember Starter versions, with less settings to change than a TV

The last group the Betweeners as you call them the hobbyist/IT pro/enthusiast users make up a tiny proportion of Microsoft's customer base, OK they upgrade often, are willing to beta Test software, so they are not ignored - of course they should not really be using a home version of software and expect any real ability to control settings, They are very vocal, and Microsoft does listen, but they have to produce a saleable product for their main markets.

I've not mentioned Phones as this is a completely different horse, One that I think was long out of the gate before Microsoft even arrived at the track. They were similar when XP was King and this new fangled Interweb's came along, but they eventually realised that it was real and jumped on board and are now up with the leaders.

The Phone market is another Long distance race and you never know, but I think they have a long way to go to even see the rest of the field


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22 Mar 2016   #62
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

I would call myself a hobbyist/enthusiast and have used Windows 7 Home Premium on all 4 PCs (3 built, 1 recased Acer) not pro. This was because of the non US price gouging cost MS applied to the pro version. Some possible networking advantages were offered by the pro version I think but not much more.
When I eventually build using Windows 10 I may consider the extra $ for the pro version because of the extra control.
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22 Mar 2016   #63
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Yea I couldn't use 10 without group policy
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25 Mar 2016   #64
Benteke

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by remm View Post
....And using Sandboxie with it (as I have stated in these forums upteen times before) negates the need for a real-time AV, protecting the OS from any online threats by keeping all online activity within the sandbox which can be configured to be deleted after each session, or persist if one prefers, which is still perfectly safe.
I would love to know more about this... My AV subscription runs out fairly soon and I'm not planning on renewing. Any info/further reading you could suggest?


w/regards to the OP, for me it's difficult to say.... 2020 is a ways off. If my MS experience continues along the same path as it has over this past year, OS X will be used for the majority of my computing needs. It's that simple.
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25 Mar 2016   #65
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Yea I couldn't use 10 without group policy
Your initial post puzzled me but not the edited one. I'd like access to gpedit as well. There some claimed fiddles to get gpedit working on the Home version but I don't trust them at this stage to try on Windows 7 or 10 if/when I install it.
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25 Mar 2016   #66
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
There some claimed fiddles to get gpedit working on the Home version but I don't trust them at this stage to try on Windows 7 or 10 if/when I install it.
Some settings stick and some don't. See Posts #12, #14 & #15 here:

How do I manually install gpedit.msc on my Windows 7 Home Premium?

I added gpedit.msc mainly to configure the following the Notify AV when opening attachments setting which is not enabled in Windows 7 by default. (Shocking)

Note   Note

This policy setting allows you to manage the behavior for notifying registered antivirus programs. If multiple programs are registered, they will all be notified. If the registered antivirus program already performs on-access checks or scans files as they arrive on the computerís e-mail server because further calls would be redundant.

If you enable this policy Windows tells the registered antivirus program to scan the file when a user opens a file attachment. If the antivirus program fails, the attachment is blocked from being opened. - In other words if the AV doesn't scan the attachment for any reason it cannot be opened.

If you disable this policy Windows does not call the registered antivirus programs when file attachments are opened.

If you do not configure this policy Windows does not call the registered antivirus programs when file attachments are opened.


In other words unsafe attachments can be opened if the AV doesn't scan them.

What will you do when Windows 7 ends?-group-policy.jpg
Example of a Group Policy setting that doesn't stick in Home Premium:

KB3035583 Reappeared After Being Hidden

As Shawn says it's better to find the appropriate registry setting.


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25 Mar 2016   #67
remm

Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Benteke View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by remm View Post
....And using Sandboxie with it (as I have stated in these forums upteen times before) negates the need for a real-time AV, protecting the OS from any online threats by keeping all online activity within the sandbox which can be configured to be deleted after each session, or persist if one prefers, which is still perfectly safe.
I would love to know more about this... My AV subscription runs out fairly soon and I'm not planning on renewing. Any info/further reading you could suggest?
Can read about Sandboxie here, and can Google "what is a sandbox" for general info to read about the concept which is not new, and not specific to Sandboxie. Sandboxes have been used for many, many years to study sftw viruses among other things. Sandboxie just packages one for easy use.
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26 Mar 2016   #68
hazel123

Windows 7 64 bit, Windows 7 32 bit and Xubuntu
 
 

I bought a copy of Windows 8 on ebay recently and thought I'd try it on a 10" netbook that had Windows on but was a bit slow. Found the resolution wasn't compatible and it couldn't upgrade to 8.1 so I clean installed Windows 10 on it, using the Windows 8 product key. Windows 10 worked perfectly on it, with all the drivers downloaded (which is weird when it isn't compatible with our 3 newer laptops). So I've had a good fiddle around with Windows 10 now. Set it up how I wanted it - to be more like Windows 7. I can't see any advantages at all. It doesn't seem any faster really - the menu layouts aren't as good and I absolutely hate the apps. With adverts in them! Of course you don't have to use them. Maybe it is slightly quicker on the netbook than Windows 7. But after playing around with it for a few days, there is no way I am giving up Windows 7, even if it means not connecting to the internet after it is no longer supported - because then I can still play chess titans and solitaire. If I can't actually have non internet programs I like then I don't consider it an upgrade. Windows updates seemed slicker and faster, that's about all.

It may sound like a small thing - not having Chess Titans and Solitaire, but I use them a lot when chilling, and as far as I can see there is no comparable alternative - without connecting to the internet and having adverts on the games. Particularly for the chess. Apparently the links to install Windows 7 games on Windows 10 don't work any more - Windows updates removed them again I believe.

The changes in look and functions on Windows 10 reminded me a lot of the newer Xubuntu Linux, and if my favourite programs aren't there I think the only reason I would not go with Linux instead of Windows 10 would be video editing software.
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26 Mar 2016   #69
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Yea I couldn't use 10 without group policy
Your initial post puzzled me but not the edited one. I'd like access to gpedit as well. There some claimed fiddles to get gpedit working on the Home version but I don't trust them at this stage to try on Windows 7 or 10 if/when I install it.
Yep that was a boo-boo
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26 Mar 2016   #70
groze

W7 32 bit, Linux Mint Xfce 18 64 bit
 
 

I would of said, disable the network connection in windows 7 use Xubuntu 16.04 LTS but some issues have or will be a problem. Google Chrome no longer supports 32 bit in Linux. In 2017 adobe flash will not be supported on Linux at all regardless of architecture. Which means you might have trouble watching protected content in Linux unless something new pops up. When I was testing a daily build of Xubuntu 64 bit, I couldn't get the EPSON printer working with the deb file, hopefully this will be fixed by release time.

What I probably end up doing is dual booting with windows 10 and unfortunately getting rid of windows 7
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