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Windows 7: What is a good e-mail to replace Windows Live 2012.

21 Aug 2016   #11
Bullfighter

Windows 7 Professional 64
 
 

For those still using Windows Live Mail 2012:

Have you had this problem occur: If you try opening your e-mail account on Outlook Mail.Com, then try operating your Windows Live Mail on the same computer, the account you opened on Outlook Mail now refuses to receive mail on Windows Live.

This has happened to 2 of my computers, each on different accounts. I think the only "cure" is to go through an uninstall/reinstall while making sure you've backed up all e-mail storage folders. It's a real pain but it does work.


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21 Aug 2016   #12
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

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eMclient is good but the free version is limited to 2 accounts.
You can get around that limitation by use of an organiser email account ( I have one set up using Gmail, but any suitable account can be used), all my other accounts are checked and collected by the gmail account so I get a single point to read mail from several different accounts (this can either integrate accounts or separate thenm as you wish, as the send options are set to reply as the original account there is no issue with confusing other mail senders
OT, but I'm interested to know what advantages eM has over Gmail. I use Gmail as you do - as an aggregator for several emails. Are you saying you prefer eM as the primary interface?
Although I have tried EMClient, I actually use Thunderbird for when I need to be dealing with Mail, (or Calendar), for a major clean-up/review, I can receive several thousand mails per month. (My comment above was just a workaround for the restrictions on the Free EM).

I have access to Outlook 2016, But do not need exchange integration.

I use Thunderbird as it Integrates better with Google Services (Mail Calendar Etc). It has an add-on that displays a Live, Editable, copy of my Calendar(s) in a Tab so is convenient to integrate mail and appointments

Most of the time I actually use the Web Interface for Google Services or, as I am an Android Phone & Tablet user, I use the built in android apps
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21 Aug 2016   #13
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bullfighter View Post
For those still using Windows Live Mail 2012:

Have you had this problem occur: If you try opening your e-mail account on Outlook Mail.Com, then try operating your Windows Live Mail on the same computer, the account you opened on Outlook Mail now refuses to receive mail on Windows Live.

This has happened to 2 of my computers, each on different accounts. I think the only "cure" is to go through an uninstall/reinstall while making sure you've backed up all e-mail storage folders. It's a real pain but it does work.
Microsoft are in the process of "updating" their free mail services and this has already stopped Outlook Mail (Sign in to your Microsoft account), working with the older clients, Windows mail has already gone, and I think that Windows Live Mail 2012 will not be long, (although no dates have been given as yet).

Live Mail and Windows Mail should still work with other accounts but not the MS one, I believe they are moving to the Industry Standard IMAP standard to provide options previously supported by old MS Proprietary Software in the clients. The accounts can also accessed directly by the web
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21 Aug 2016   #14
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bullfighter View Post
For those still using Windows Live Mail 2012:

Have you had this problem occur: If you try opening your e-mail account on Outlook Mail.Com, then try operating your Windows Live Mail on the same computer, the account you opened on Outlook Mail now refuses to receive mail on Windows Live.

This has happened to 2 of my computers, each on different accounts. I think the only "cure" is to go through an uninstall/reinstall while making sure you've backed up all e-mail storage folders. It's a real pain but it does work.
Are you using the old settings or IMAP? If you haven't set them up as IMAP, then you have to remove your accounts then re-add them using IMAP settings.

MS has dropped support for the DeltaSync Protocol and moved the new Outlook email over to Exchange ActiveSync I believe.
DeltaSync was the sync method used in WLM 2012.

They tried to push out a patch to add EAS to WLM 2012, but it was a disaster, the folders just wouldn't sync properly. The patch was then pulled and MS announced they were dropping WLM.

IMAP does work perfectly fine, although sometimes it's definitely not as quick to sync folders as DeltaSync was.
Also, WLM is a little limited on options when it comes to IMAP.
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21 Aug 2016   #15
RolandJS

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

A previous poster asked about the differences between Gmail and eM Client [let's include T-bird]. Let me mention just one: Gmail leaves email on Gmail servers. eM Client, Thunderbird, downloads the server emails onto one's hard-drive; these can be set to delete or leave server contents.
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21 Aug 2016   #16
RogerR

7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RolandJS View Post
A previous poster asked about the differences between Gmail and eM Client [let's include T-bird]. Let me mention just one:
Gmail leaves email on Gmail servers. eM Client, Thunderbird, downloads the server emails onto one's hard-drive; these can be set to delete or leave server contents.
I'm not sure this is completely accurate. Gmail can be set up the same way.
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22 Aug 2016   #17
Barman58

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu
 
 

If to use the IMAP protocol rather than the Older, Simpler POP3 Protocol, then the data is held on robust web based servers and accessed from your system when required. the local client may make local cache copies for off-line working but this is not specified by the protocol.

Any work performed on this Mail Server Edit / Delete / Move Etc is secure and available to any device with the required credentials.

With the old POP3 system which is designed for Dial up Networking, then the work is performed on the Local system after the mail is downloaded, (manually or on a schedule). POP3 is only suitable for a single system point of access and any issues on the local machine relies on personal backups for security, also even if you set to leave copies on the server you cannot access the data from more than one location and be certain that you are accessing the latest copy as the one on the server may have already been actioned from another system that is not On at all times

If you have an always on internet connection you should use IMAP as the mail system works in real time, even if the mail system is only run intermittently The link operates from the mail server to the local system so that the data is always up to date automatically

I use IMAP to access and manage my mail from any of three PC systems Two Phones and Two tablets, and I also have the option to access from any internet computer on the planet, My data is always there and live wherever I access it from
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22 Aug 2016   #18
Brds7t7

Windows 7 Pro 64-Bit, Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit, Windows 8.1 Pro 64-Bit
 
 

Like you Barman, I do prefer IMAP over POP on my PC's.

I have my Android phone and tablets using Exchange ActiveSync though. That's how it sets mine up as default and I tend to leave it like that for the contacts and calendar sync. I've yet to find a way to sync those using IMAP. EAS seems to sync faster than IMAP too, at least from my experience.

I think the only free desktop client that supports EAS is eMclient. Unless there's a way to do it in TB/Fossamail but I haven't worked that out yet.

Edit: I just realised that the Hotmail accounts I have set up as EAS. But, I'm unsure whether the Gmail accounts do, in fact, use IMAP on an Android device?
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22 Aug 2016   #19
tcs1752890

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 
Pegasus Mail - "best thing since sliced bread"

Pegasus Mail is a very mature and highly functional free email client capable of running multiple users and protocols, distribution lists, mailboxes, filters, rules etc. See Pegasus Mail and Mercury and read the overview.

It is structured as a set of text files (most of which are user readable) contained within a simple set of directories which can be moved around, copied, renamed, whatever. The tool itself can be "installed" anywhere and pointed at these directories. I put installed in quotes because it isn't like most Windows tools with tentacles everywhere and a hundred entries in the Registry - it's a program that loads down to the directory you tell it. Novel eh!

I can only suggest you have nothing to lose by trying it. If you have emails currently sitting on a server you can install Pegasus Mail and set it up so as to read your emails but not delete them, so if you don't like it you can still access your emails from another client.

Regards,
Joe.
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22 Aug 2016   #20
strollin

W10 Pro desktop, W10 laptop, W10 laptop, W10 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
 
 

I'm still using WLM 2012 as it still works fine for me. I use it configured POP3 from multiple computers and have never had issues with that. MS said that WLM 2012 would stop working after the end of June 2016 but so far it's still going strong.

I have tried many of the suggested email clients. I don't care for the MS suggestion of the mail client that comes with Win 10 and also didn't care for eM Client or Fossamail. I've used Thunderbird in the past and like it so will probably switch to TB when and if WLM stops working for me.
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