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Windows 7: W7 - Apps refuse to use half of my RAM

01 Oct 2016   #11
Fiveseven

Windows 7 x64 Professional
 
 

Really wish you had explained a bit further, especially the "a hard drive (or SSD) is slower than RAM and that is precisely why the pagefile is a good thing" part is difficult to swallow for me, lol.

Nonetheless I've enabled a 17GB pagefile on my SSD which raised the commit charge limit to ~32GB and now I get 29/32 commit charge when (successfully) stuffing 15GB of data into my RAM - so the problem seems to be resolved. Thank you.


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01 Oct 2016   #12
PimpleMaze

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I have 16gb of ram installed on my 64bit w7. For space saving on my ssd i disabled hibernation and set my pagefile to 512mb on the ssd (so in case of a crash it can write to the crashlog) and made a pagefile the size of my physical memory on a hdd. never ran into trouble, I never reach the commit limit. (I wonder if disabling the hdd pagefile will make any difference at all).
If your situation is like mine, where you have limited ssd storage space, making a minimal pagefile on your 1st partition and moving the rest to a storage drive will save you 16 gb of valuable space. correct me if i'm wrong.

I still don't understand why his memory started swapping before it ran out. i've never seen that happening.
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01 Oct 2016   #13
Fiveseven

Windows 7 x64 Professional
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by PimpleMaze View Post
I have 16gb of ram installed on my 64bit w7. For space saving on my ssd i disabled hibernation and set my pagefile to 512mb on the ssd (so in case of a crash it can write to the crashlog) and made a pagefile the size of my physical memory on a hdd. never ran into trouble, I never reach the commit limit. (I wonder if disabling the hdd pagefile will make any difference at all).
If your situation is like mine, where you have limited ssd storage space, making a minimal pagefile on your 1st partition and moving the rest to a storage drive will save you 16 gb of valuable space. correct me if i'm wrong.

I still don't understand why his memory started swapping before it ran out. i've never seen that happening.
I absolutely want to avoid putting a pagefile on a HDD because the performance of that setup still gives me nightmares, but on Thurdsay I bought a third SSD anyway because the space was becoming an issue overall, so I just put the whole pagefile there.
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01 Oct 2016   #14
TechnoMage2016

Windows 7 Ultimate, SP1, x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Fiveseven View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by torchwood View Post
Hi FiveSeven,
what have you got set for pagefile
System Properties > Advanced > Performance > Settings > Advanced
my rig 3Gb has 3066mb, yours should be about 16000mb

Roy
Hi Roy,
as stated in the OP, I have pagefile completely disabled. Didn't see any reason to keep it around as 16GB of RAM is enough to hold all my apps with comfortable headroom. Keeping the pagefile seemed like nothing else than unnecessary performance loss and waste of storage space.

I've already had it disabled last year when I still had 8GB RAM, and never ran into any issues - only received low memory warnings etc. when the RAM was actually fully occupied.
Both MS and the majority of PC Gurus concur, that the Pagefile should never be disabled, as there are a not of programs that rely on it. It's just on the hard drive anyway and not in ram, if that's any help.
But we've had a pagefile, previously known a a Swapfile, for as long as we've had windows, and MS put it there for a very good reason..... to supplement ram, not to totally replace it.

Another problem I see, that maybe won't show up now, but most likely later, is the ram itself.
Many, many years of PC experience has told me to NEVER use Kingston ram. Every time I've had a PC come in with some totally weird complaint, that defied all standard troubleshooting methods, the problem was solved by removing a stick of Kingston ram and replacing it with Micron or Crucial ram.
A good friend who is in the RAM business has told me that Kingston buys second grade ram chips from Major Manufacturers and puts them on their own boards. When new, they may work OK, but as they age, they will begin to get wonky, and eventually just totally fail.

Cheers Mates!
TechnoMage
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01 Oct 2016   #15
Fiveseven

Windows 7 x64 Professional
 
 

Weird, I've always viewed Kingstons as generally recommended, when it comes to RAM anyway. Been using them myself with zero issues for more years than my own memory can track.
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