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Windows 7: Feedback Poll (and Rant)


View Poll Results: Feedback Question
Do you send Feedback to MS on a regular basis about issues and/or likes/dislikes in Windows 7? 25 80.65%
Do you not send Feedback to MS at all and just use Windows 7 for free? 6 19.35%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

15 Feb 2009   #1

Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit
 
 
Feedback Poll (and Rant)

I have a Rant today, and I'm sorry but I just HAVE to get this off my chest somewhere, and here seems like a good place to start.
I had a little..(well, maybe not so little) argument with someone today, and I hope to get some opinions from our folks here on it. So I'm making a Poll out of this little tirade

I have seen on many sites (and this one too), where people who are supposedly "Beta Testing" Windows 7, and wanting to remove all traces of the "Send Feedback" tool from their system. Now I'm sorry, but if you aren't going to help with making this OS better by telling MS what issues you're having, then I don't feel you should have downloaded this software in the first place!
Not only are you using FREE software, you are not contributing to the reason you got it Free in the first place, and you've taken away the possibility from someone else who WOULD help to make it better. Now to me that's pure selfishness, and it bothers me...allot.

MS has done somehting extraordinary with this OS, they're asking the general public, the end users, to provide feedback on what they like, don't like, what works as expected, doesn't work as expected, and what can be done to make it better for us.....that's US! By downloading this FREE operating system and using (and Enjoying) it on a daily basis, all they ask in return for this favor is to let them know what we're having problems with, or what we like and don't like. Is that too much to ask?

If the answer to that is Yes, then I believe you should NOT be using this software because you quite possibly have taken the spot away from someone who would be willing to help out. If you can't put up with that "Send Feedback" link on the top of every page, or even the Watermark for that matter, then you don't deserve to be using this Free s'ware (remember...that's FREE..as in you didn't pay a single penny for it).

I also see many people posting about "this doesn't work" or "That" isn't right, but I find myself asking "do these same people take the time to tell MS about it as well?" Don't get me wrong, I like helping folks fix issues, that's why I'm here amongst a few other sites, but I also think as well as posting here with your issues, you should be sending off some Feedback to MS about your experiences with Windows 7...am I wrong to think that?
I don't think so..but apparently there are a great MANY people out there who think I'm wrong. Apparently, they feel it's their "Right" to get free software from MS and use it as they please, without making even the tiniest effort to contribute to the Beta program in return.

So, how do the rest of you feel about this?
Do you feel that MS "owes" you something and therefore you can use this opportunity to use free s'ware without any obligation?
Or do you contribute to the cause, and use this as an opportunity to help make Windows 7 a better OS for everyone in the end?

Be honest too, lying here is only lying to yourself as well. We're not going to Judge as it's far too late for that, but maybe we can change attitudes somewhat and being honest is a great start.
Personally, I take advantage of the opportunity to let MS know what problems I run across and what I'd like to see included or excluded, and why. For the opportunity to try out this new OS for no charge and to tell MS what I think, I feel that the "Send Feedback" tool and links, and also the Watermark, is a very small price to pay for the priviledge. How about you...

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15 Feb 2009   #2

Windows 7 Pro x64 & Win7 Pre x64 / Ubuntu 9.10 Beta
 
 

Wow, I completely agree

I use Windows 7 to make the final release better. and you should too
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15 Feb 2009   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 x2 + x86 + Windows 8.1 x64 x2
 
 

Hello Dave,

I have to agree that it does seems that quite a few people have forgotten the reason for the BETA. I send feedback as often as I find a problem either myself or if I can duplicate a problem highlighted by another user.

The fact that the BETA is good enough to run as a main OS has I think convinced some that it is more than a beta, and should not fail in any way.

I must admit that I have removed the send feedback link next to the Window Minimise button as It's placement did cause me to start the send feedback process on a fair number of occasions where this was not my intention .

I agree that it is essential that all users send feedback on each and every occasion so as to ensure that the released version of Windows 7 is everything we believe it can be
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15 Feb 2009   #4

Windows 7 Pro x64 & Win7 Pre x64 / Ubuntu 9.10 Beta
 
 

I have never removed Sendfeedback, and I report everything, but know not to send anything without another beta tester confirming the bug. Please keep that in mind.

Give details. You can send suggestions, but keep them to the point.
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15 Feb 2009   #5

Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit
 
 

Well said guys.

I hope this thread can open some eyes of some that may be partially closed right now. But it's also a place where opinions can be voiced without fear of reprisals and Flaming! Let's all remember that point too please.
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15 Feb 2009   #6

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

I would have to agree, this is the reason for it being released. Having the watermark does not bother me in the slightest, although as Barman says, the location of the Send Feedback link can be somewhat annoying.
You should absolutely still send feedback and an extra incentive for doing so, besides helping problems to be found and fixed, is you get to have an actual part of making Windows 7 better for all the millions of people that will be using it in the future.
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15 Feb 2009   #7

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

for me as long as the send feedback link is there for me is more than enough..}
while i agree with airbot that sometimes the location can be annoying (especially when the window of some programs or some custom UI is there ie SUPER...) the send feedback tool is more than i need..
i usually check the reliability to check if i havent sent any bug report so that MS is bugged enough....
just my 2 cents

OT but i noticed that chromium does not have the send feedback anywhere...
(custom UI i guess)
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15 Feb 2009   #8

window 7 build 7048 x64
 
 

I removed the 'Send Feedback" on the title bar because I found it ugly. If I have the need to report a problem I can always open it in the Control Panel. However, I do not believe Microsoft needs to hear 250 million opinions about how cool the Icons look, ect.

I am willing to provide information to improve the quality of the product as I agreed to when I downloaded it but, I will not become a servant. Microsoft also has the privilege of being on my computer. I have spent more money on hardware than what any operating system would have cost as a single user. What or how I modify it is up to me not Microsoft. See they need me more than I need them; not to just test their beta products but to also buy the finished product.

What is going to happen to all of our OSs come August 1st? Do you think they are going to give us a discount on Windows 7 after the work we beta testers put it to helping them? What about all the PR we provide also? You can't buy that.

What I am saying here is it is a two way street and I do not see me getting a huge bargain out of the deal.
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15 Feb 2009   #9

Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64 Windows 8 Enterprise RTM x64
 
 

I have removed the link on windows simply as i always click it by mistake and its very ugly, though i do send feedback.
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15 Feb 2009   #10

Vista Ult 64bit - Windows 7 Ult 7264 64bit
 
 

Good!

Well voiced opinions so far, and that's exactly what I intended with this.
Hopefully we can have intelligent discussion on differing viewpoints as well, like adults.

#looniam - Don't be surprised to see MS reward some of the more prolific helpers out in the end. While we all can't see a discount on Windows 7, I feel that just being asked for my opinion on how this OS could turn out is more than we've ever seen before, and I appreciate the chance to test drive it.
Also I think it's better if MS hears 1/4 million reports on something, that just points out that there is a definite area to be looked at closer, even if it is just about the icons. While that's not something I'd complain about personally, I think the more they hear about a single aspect of something, the more we have control over the outcome. (I hope)

Keep em coming!
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