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Windows 7: permissions driving me crazy!!!

08 Dec 2009   #11

vista home premium

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
I have to ask, but what are you guys doing that you need to take ownership of files on a new install? I have only been able to duplicate this once (on purpose), by moving my "My" folders from an old install to a new, which used a different username and password.

There's a simple simple way around this. Use the same username and password combo each time you reinstall your OS. Don't store your user data in the "My" folders either. Who does this anymore? Store them on a data drive. Simpler back ups, more customized options for naming, and much easier restoration after an OS install...not to mention eliminating the ownership issues.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bigmck View Post
What I did was not create a password for the Administrator, which is me. When I try to delete a file the prompt comes up that asks for Administrator Permission, All I have to do is click Yes and the process continues. Since I don't have a password to type in, it makes things easier.
That also goes against any security guide out there in terms of an OS. You never ever have the admin account unprotected by a password. That's an open door for malware to take control of the system and lock you out. You'd be much better off suppressing the UAC warnings.
Would the admin password protect your system from malware all the time, or only when the system is locked? If only when locked, then what's to stop malware from attacking your system while it is up and active?

In my situation, anti malware software is locking up while searching the windows.old folder so I copied the folder to another drive, and now I want to delete it from my C: drive.

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09 Dec 2009   #12

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by edicus View Post
Would the admin password protect your system from malware all the time, or only when the system is locked? If only when locked, then what's to stop malware from attacking your system while it is up and active?
There have been many variations of malware that when resident on your system, will search your admin accounts and find ones with weak or missing passwords. They will put a password on those accounts, essentially locking you out of the admin account on your own system. Once they gain access to the admin account, they can pretty much do whatever they want on your system. I even rename my admin accounts, along with putting a strong password on them.
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10 Dec 2009   #13

Vista Home/Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
User Account

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by edicus View Post
I want to delete a file but I get the message "I need permission to do this". I am the only user of this machine and am administrator. How can I PERMANENTLY turn off this permission feature??? It's making me go coocoo for cocoa puffs.
Goto User Accounts in the control panel then click user accounts/Change user account control settings, if you want to disable it move the slider down to never notify.
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10 Dec 2009   #14

Windows 10 Pro x64 x2 Windows 10 Enterprise x64, Ubuntu

The only way to remove permissions from a windows system is to not use NTFS file system - permissions are an integral part of the file system.

There are no permissions on a FAT32 file system. unfortunately Windows 7 will only install on an NTFS System.

Permissions are often complicated because they are written to each file and folder directly, and they will survive a change of operating system.

The system sees the username we see, not as a name but as a code (The SID), this SID is randomly generated for each user on each OS

The username Fred on an XP system is actually s.......3001, we then install win7 with a username Fred & win7 allocates a random SID to this new user S........5469.
Although the user is the same to us the system sees files owned by the original fred as different from files owned by the new Fred as the SID's are different.
In order to work with files on non system drives after a New OS install you must first take ownership of the files & folders, (which allows you to change the permissions), and then you need to give your new user sufficient permissions to perform the operations required. Normally it is best to allocate Full Control, as this allows all operations.

In this case as with a lot of Permissions issues UAC is not a factor, although an elevated user context will normally be able to access the files concerned as the SID allocated to the administrators group is normally the same on Microsoft OS's
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