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Windows 7: Windows latest build - 7061 "Almost" out in the wild RC1 delayed to May

17 Mar 2009   #21

 
 

So if we want it so badly we have to rely on our Japanese friends


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17 Mar 2009   #22
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by nate42nd View Post
Didn't Vista start out at build 6000? Maybe not.......but my Vista with service pack 1 is version 6 Build 6001. Windows 7 will be something like version 7 build 7161. I guess it really does not matter much. haha Just a little strange the way they do things. Maybe these are just "beta builds" and it will be 7000 or 7100 when finished.
Hello nate42nd.

To keep this short and sweet; changing the version number from 6... to 7... would cause too many problems as it did when MS did it with Vista, so Windows 7 will be released as version 6??? to relieve driver problems as much as possible.

I hope this helps a litle.





Later Ted
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17 Mar 2009   #23

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by wguimb View Post
@ChazzMatt

Very nice assessment. I agree with SoLoR in that RC branch beta builds will be around 7130 to 7150 towards the end of May. It makes a lot of sense that they might brand the actual RC as 6.1.7777. They are using NT 6.1 moniker so that developers can do a version check during beta code development. It will likely remain that way.
Don't let Microsoft snow you. They aren't choosing the NT 6.1 moniker for compatibility. They are choosing the 6.1 moniker because it fits -- it's a revision of Vista, which was NT 6.0.

Just like Windows 2000 was NT 5.0, and
then XP (which was built on Win2k) became NT 5.1.
Then Server 20003 -- which was built on XP -- became NT 5.2.

Vista/Server 2008 was a brand new kernel, built from scratch, and was aptly named NT 6.0.

Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 is built on NT 6.0 and will be NT 6.1.

But then Microsoft chose the stupid "Windows 7" name and was asked "then why isn't it NT 7.0"? Because it can't be -- it's built on Vista! (NT 6.0) So, rather than come clean and admit they chose an illogical "marketing" name for the next consumer OS, they wink and say they made it "NT 6.1" instead of "7.0" for "compatibility". AS I said, look at the server side -- same kernel and they are calling it Server 2008 R2. "Windows 7" IS NT 6.1 and is Vista R2.

What happens when they DO create a brand new kernel and it's NT 7.0? What are they going to call that?
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17 Mar 2009   #24

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ChazzMatt View Post

What happens when they DO create a brand new kernel and it's NT 7.0? What are they going to call that?
Windows 8
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17 Mar 2009   #25

Windows 7 Ulti. x64
 
 

The Big 8, I like that!
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18 Mar 2009   #26

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ChazzMatt View Post
NO.

Windows 2000 RTM was NT 5.0.2195

Windows XP RTM was NT 5.1.2600.

Yes -- Vista was NT 6.0.6000.

The official public beta for the Windows 7 was NT 6.1.7000. So, that number is already used.

Microsoft is currently up to Build 7061 or later -- with more to come before official RC at end of May. I predict the official RC or probably even RTM will be Build 7777. 7777 = Windows 7, get it?

Windows NT 6.1.7777 would be a nice ironic number for the mis-named "Windows 7" -- which is not the 7th Windows anything. It's "Vista R2", just like on the server side it's going to be Server 2008 R2. At least Microsoft is being refreshingly candid about the server twin to "Windows 7" and calling it by an honest name.

Both "Windows 7" and "Server 2008 R2" will share the same kernel (NT 6.1) and service packs, just like Vista/Server 2008 share the same kernel (NT 6.0).
Thank you for the clarification ChazzMatt That would be something if it ended up 7777. Thanks for the info.
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18 Mar 2009   #27

win 7 ( 64 bit)
 
 

can't be (7777) the numbers don't add up . if there only on build 7061 now then thay
would need to do ( 716 ) more builds .and if there doing a build a day your talking about 2 years .

scrooge
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18 Mar 2009   #28

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by scrooge View Post
just found this nfo at windows 7 build 7061 out int the wild ? - Neowin Forums
Build 7061 was sent to Japan testers, it was about localized stuff. It's not a leak, it was a real (past) weekend bug bash that MS wanted to do.
people DO have 7061, it was reported on wzor a while ago but they don't bother leaking these builds out because there are not enough changes in it to make it a worthwhile leak
Can't agree with that -- someone ALWAYS leaks a build just to be the ist person to say "I have it and I did it".

I'm sure this build will hit "the usual places" before long - unless any of these 3 items are tru.

1) Japanese (or Non English) only version
2) Expiry date earlier than current "leaked versions" 01 Mar 2010
3) New sets of Keys needed for activation

In a way this is why I think MS "Tolerates" the leaks -- as it gets a much larger testing platform than it would otherwise do plus loads of extra publicity. -- also it doesn't get its own servers clogged with people trying to do downloads every 5 minutes.

MS could esily stop at a stroke any of these builds from being as useful as they are by just "nullifying" the activation keys.

So there must be SOME collusion -- even at the hihest level --of course they actually can't admit this of course.

(Even some Mac fanboys are trying Windows 7 on their machines --the newer Intel vesions -- No that's a turn around for the book).

Cheers
jimbo
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18 Mar 2009   #29

Windows 7 SP1 x64 build 7601.21701
 
 

Its english version that was distributed. And no there still isnt any public leak.
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18 Mar 2009   #30

Windows 7 Enterprise SP1 x64 Windows 8 Enterprise RTM x64
 
 

Also nullifying/changing the keys will not stop determined people, i had my 7000 activated before the keys or download were even given out.
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