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Windows 7: Tell me about Windows 7

12 Jan 2010   #1

OSX
 
 
Tell me about Windows 7

After hearing all the terrible things about Vista but needing a new computer, I decided to switch to Apple computers, especially since they can also run Windows. But for the fact that so much less software is available for the Macs (particularly of the free variety), I have been quite happy with my iMac and my Macbook Pro and am less than thrilled when, for some applications, I have to revert to using my Windows machines. But the truth is, in many cases the software available on the Windows platform seems to be better, more refined, or more fully developed and/or better integrated than much of the software for the Apple computer. And sometimes the ergonomics in Windows is better as well.

What I love about my Macs is that their performance hasn't degraded over time. My iMac performs as fast today as it did a year and a half ago when I purchased it, while all of my Windows machines became so sluggish with continued use that I hated booting them (slowly) up. I also don't run virus software or a special firewall software on my Mac; those things degrade the performance of Windows machines.

So what I want to know is, has Microsoft fixed the problems with Windows slowing down over time? I don't want to spend a half a day figuring out what's booting at startup that I don't really want to boot up, and what's running in RAM that I don't need to have running. I don't want to have to buy utilities to clean up the registry. And I don't want the performance of my machine to grind to a slow stall after I've used it for a year or two. Computers don't have to be that way; they're not that way with my iMac or my Macbook Pro.

So, again, are these issues fixed in Windows 7? I'd love to be able to buy cheap computers again and to have such a huge universe of software available to me.


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12 Jan 2010   #2

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Welcome to SF!

There is a general misconception about slowdowns. They are not caused by the OS corrupting, in most cases. It is when people install lots of programs and forget to uninstall them. They have too many programs running in the background, eating up memory.

Doing a clean install removes these programs, and gives the user a fresh start.

Bottom line is if you maintain your computer, you can use it a long time. I have an old XP machine that stills runs like the day it was bought because I maintain it.

One thing that Macs do is maintain themselves. They clean out temporary files and the like by themselves.

With a little know-how, you can save yourself $500 from the price of a Mac, and still get the same performance.

If you have any questions on how to maintain your machine, ask them! We are very good at that kind of thing.

~Jonathan
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12 Jan 2010   #3

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
 
 

Agreed - good maintenance makes Windows as fast as Mac over the long term.
I have an old Core Duo iMac that was the family computer for the longest time, though now it seems to have a couple slowdowns (may just be our internet and Firefox) and a reinstall is imminent.
Before Windows 7 I would have never considered getting Windows but over time I was running Windows in virtual machines to see how it runs, and Windows 7 wasn't half bad.
Then I needed a laptop. I would've preferred a MacBook but the cheapest one is $1100, while my MacBook Air clone was in the bargain bin for $347. And after using windows for a while and installing the minimum of software, it runs perfectly fine.
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12 Jan 2010   #4

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

I feel the reason that Windows computers indeed slow down so much over time is because of the huge availability of software which is available for them. People just don't seem to be able to help themselves when it comes to downloading something new and installing it and trying it out to see how it works. While some are conscious about uninstalling what they don't use...not every app truly uninstalls itself. I think with the Apple...there isn't as much out there...thus the boxes don't get littered with anywhere near as much garbage.

Also, with the availability of free tools for Windows...i haven't had a need to buy any utility software over the past 5 years to maintain a box. The virus scanners, malware tools, registry cleaners and such are all freely available. Of course, if you make conscious decisions to keep your box clean and tidy...quite often a majority of these reg cleaners and performance tuning tools simply are unnecessary.
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12 Jan 2010   #5
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windows 7
 
 

I recently replaced an old Win 98 system(circa 1999) with a new Win 7 machine. The reason was not due to the 98 system slowing down, but because the support for 98 had rapidly dwindled within the past year wrt AV and AS software, Adobe Reader, IE 6, etc., which not only made it unsafe to browse the Internet, but also no longer allowed viewing certain websites and online files.
In fact, the 98 machine performed as fast on the day it was shut down as it did when it was brand new, because it was kept lean and mean by occasionally doing a few quick and simple maintenance chores, e.g., uninstalling old and unused programs, making sure only specific programs were running in the background, checking for viruses and spyware, keeping the HD running efficiently with Defragmenter and ScanDisk, etc. Plus, not a single clean reinstall was done over the life of that system.
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12 Jan 2010   #6

7 x64 | 7 x64
 
 

The one thing ntrepid mentioned is the availability of titles.
I have a few that I used on XP, brought over to 7 x64 and don't need to use any compatability mode btw. But you can sure load up on programs over time. I agree it's important to keep your system maintained. 7 seems to have good scheduling ability. Good housekeeping. And then a/v such as MSE has it's own maintenance, you just have to remember to leave your system on for that day/night.
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12 Jan 2010   #7

Windows XP - Now Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit).
 
 

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I feel the reason that Windows computers indeed slow down so much over time is because of the huge availability of software which is available for them. People just don't seem to be able to help themselves when it comes to downloading something new and installing it and trying it out to see how it works
Lol, absolutely agree - and not to mention the add-on consequences of adware, malware etc.

And OP: I don't see anything wrong with Macs; yes one has to pay a premium but they look gorgeous; aesthetics does also matter to me. There is a lot of rubbish in the Windows market, esp. of laptops.

Feel the quality:







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12 Jan 2010   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by manhunter2826 View Post
I don't see anything wrong with Macs; yes one has to pay a premium but they look gorgeous; aesthetics does also matter to me. There is a lot of rubbish in the Windows market, esp. of laptops.
As slick as some of the MAC hardware looks....there are also big downfalls which I don't like either. For example, the iMAC is an all in one. Thus...if the monitor breaks the computer is useless and vice versa. That's just a real no go for me. If I invest in a really nice monitor than I generally want to move it to the newest computer in my house. Being stuck (pun intended) to the computer it came with really stinks.

Also, you can get very aesthetically pleasing PC hardware as well...but most people try to save the almighty buck when it comes to PC's simply because they can. For example, a Corsair Obsidian 800d case looks just as nice as any Mac Pro that I have ever seen. Of course, it also costs $279 as well and is huge. But I'm just saying that you can certainly build a beautiful looking PC if you try.
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12 Jan 2010   #9
HJA

 

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the iMAC is an all in one. Thus...if the monitor breaks the computer is useless and vice versa
I agree. I stopped buying integrated after my Gateway. If it breaks it's easier to repair yourself.
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12 Jan 2010   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

To keep Windows maintained:

  • Don't randomly install any software - get it only from the manufacturer's site and only if you need it - and really, do you need it?
  • Install less bloated apps - Foxit Reader vs the gigantic Adobe Reader
  • Don't install or tweak 7 with any apps - run Disk Cleaner once a week via sageset and a scheduled task.
  • Clean out the %TMP% folder weekly - disk cleanup should do it if you set it up right but just check.
  • Worth saying again, don't buy or use any cleaning utilities.
  • Install the latest drivers manually for a home-built desktop or from the manufacturer for a laptop, or the majority of drivers for a useless store bought PC. Use a driver sweeper for the GPU and sound drivers.
  • Clean out your case monthly if you need it and you probably do.
  • Keep your apps updated fully with PSI and only use one single antivirus app - Microsoft Security Esssentials + UAC + Windows Firewall is enough.
  • You don't need an on-demand scanner unless your system has been compromised.
Roughly that's it, but someone might add something.
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