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Windows 7: Hidden Administrator Account?

03 Feb 2010   #1

Windows 7 Pro 64
 
 
Hidden Administrator Account?

Hi All,
Just a quick question....Does activating the "Hidden Administrator Account" Give you any more/special control over the operating system then having a "Regular User Account" that is set to Administrator in the User Accounts section of the Control Panel?


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03 Feb 2010   #2
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 

Hello 0Gravity,

Yes, the built-in Adminisitrator account has full control, while the default administrator account that was created during installation has to have you allow UAC permission first.

Built-in Administrator Account - Enable or Disable

Hope this helps,
Shawn
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03 Feb 2010   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

In effect, the administrator account limits you to standard use, until UAC elevates you. With this "administrator" account you simply select yes or cancel. With the other standard account, you need the password.
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03 Feb 2010   #4

Windows 7 Pro 64
 
 

Thanks Brink And Frost,
So if I have set my UAC to Never Notify is it in effect the same now? The reason I am asking is because I want to be able to Boot up my PC into my User Account....Without a password....without having to select from a Users Menu.....But with full access to my PC without having to jump through a bunch of hoops to install a program or change a file! I understand this comprimises my pc's security a bit, but I am the only one that has access to it, (Short of a break in and a theft), in which case, I have all my passwords saved in an encrypted password program, and all my sensative files stored in an encrypted "Safe Drive"....I understand the need for these kind of security measures in a corperate setting where the Sys Administrator want to limit what can be installed without permission....but for the average home user these constant roadblocks are just irritating. Forgive me but I am coming from XP Home Edition, where the security setting were a joke, but it was perfect for what I use my system for.......I love windows 7 professional, I just want to use it more like XP!
Thanks Again for the replies,
Mike
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03 Feb 2010   #5
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 

Mike,

Close, but the built-in Administrator account would still be closer to how XP was since it does not need to be allowed permission to modify system files like the default one even with UAC turned off. It is a security risk as you stated though. While you have full control and permission while logged on to the built-in Administrator account, so does everything running in it whether you know it's running or not.
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03 Feb 2010   #6

Windows 7 Pro 64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Brink View Post
Mike,

Close, but the built-in Administrator account would still be closer to how XP was since it does not need to be allowed permission to modify system files like the default one even with UAC turned off. It is a security risk as you stated though. While you have full control and permission while logged on to the built-in Administrator account, so does everything running in it whether you know it's running or not.
Thanks Again, I think I will try my account for a while with the UAC turned off and see if that is a happy medium...I dont mind having to go in and run setups in "Admin Mode" or the occasional warning, as long as the darn programs install and WORK!
The last straw was when I tried installing MS Office 2007 yesterday and althought my account is set to "Administrator" and I ran the install in admin mode, and it seemingly installed the program.....everytime I would try to run an office app I recieved an error saying "This program is not installed for the current user, Please run setup" Then the only way I could get it to run was in "Compatability Mode..Run as Admin" option and the it was like it had to run a little install everytime, and the programs seemed a bit crippled! It was not until I shut off UAC that I was able to run the programs normally! So you see what I meen when I say I'm tired of "Jumping through Hoops" just to install programs! And this was just the latest in a long line of hoops!
Thanks again for all your advice/help with these questions,
Mike
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03 Feb 2010   #7
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 

You're welcome Mike. Let us know if you have anymore.
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03 Feb 2010   #8

Windows 7 Pro 64
 
 

Thanks....I somehow have a feeling I will be spending lots of time in these forums.....Coming from XP and there is much to be learned! But it does seem like a great Op Sys so far! Minus the learning curve aggrivations...but that is normal with any new Op sys.....I just had the good sense to skip over Vista!
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05 Feb 2010   #9

win 7 ultimate x64
 
 

Here is my experience with Built-in & Default Administrators account:
Even if you elevated the UAC, you would never get the same power as a built-in account. The only way to get full power is after installation, I would activate the built in account and log in as Administrator then delete the user that was created during installation. There are certain restriction which I encountered in the past that certain software, specifically ADOBE products required certain values in the registry to be changed and I was unable to do so with the default Administrator right. Or if you want to try to disable the index searching for C drive, you will not be able to change the attributes of system files.
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05 Feb 2010   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate x86-64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by topgundcp View Post
Here is my experience with Built-in & Default Administrators account:
Even if you elevated the UAC, you would never get the same power as a built-in account. The only way to get full power is after installation, I would activate the built in account and log in as Administrator then delete the user that was created during installation. There are certain restriction which I encountered in the past that certain software, specifically ADOBE products required certain values in the registry to be changed and I was unable to do so with the default Administrator right. Or if you want to try to disable the index searching for C drive, you will not be able to change the attributes of system files.
You would get enough "power" to install the application. The hidden account is hidden for a reason.
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