| Windows 7: Moving \Users folder ... Is this a reasonable approach? |
11 Apr 2009
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#1 | | |
Moving \Users folder ... Is this a reasonable approach? I essentially skipped Vista completely (bought it with the hardware, installed it, then discarded it) and started with the 7000 beta. Am currently toying with 7077 on a new, 3-week-old monster machine that needs to shift into productive use very soon.
Moving the "Documents and Settings" folder was easy back in XP days. It appears to be a lot more complicated now. However, after a bit of reading, I've come up with the following: - Clean install (in this case, 7077 x64) as user 'username'
- Enable 'Administrator' account
- Log out of 'username' and log into 'Administrator'
- Continue with computer setup using the 'Administrator' account
- Delete both the account and files for 'username'
- Hack the registry to alter the location for new user accounts
- -- [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList]
- -- Replace '%SystemDrive%\Users' with 'D:\Users' for the 'ProfilesDirectory' key
- Create a new account for 'username' with admin privileges which appears as D:\Users\username\...
- Log out of the 'Administrator' account (leaving it active and located in the C:\Users folder)
- Log into the new 'username' admin account and go about business as usual.
- (There will be four additional non-admin accounts created on this machine -- all of them located in the D:\Users folder.)
My question is: Does this seem a valid approach to separating the Users folder from the system drive? Or, am I setting myself up for problems? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number home brew OS Win.7.Ult.x64 CPU Intel Core i7 970 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58-UD5 Memory 12GB (6x2GB) OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-R485MC-1GH, ATI 4850, 1GB GDDR3, passive cooler Sound Card (on-board) Speakers - Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Dell U2410 (H-IPS) Screen Resolution 1920x1200, 1920x1200 Keyboard Das Keyboard Professional, Logitech UltraX Mouse Logitech G400 PSU PCP&C S75QB Case Lian Li PC-V2010B + EX-H34 expansion HD cage Cooling Xigmatek HDT-1283 heatsink & bracket + Scythe S-Flex SFF21E Hard Drives System = Intel 320 160GB SSD --
Data = 2x WD2002FAEX, RAID1 (ICH10R) --
Backup = 5x WD20EARS (eSata port) --
Add'l Storage = 8x WD20EARS, RAID6 (Adaptec 5805) Internet Speed 6.85 Mb/s down, 0.35 Mb/s up (typical) Other Info Pioneer DVR-217DBK burner --
stock Lian Li case fans + BS-06 PCI 140mm exhaust (all set on 'low') |
11 Apr 2009
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#2 | | Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 Maine, USA |
Hello Weh,
Welcome to the Seven Forums.
You might take a look at this Personal User Shell Folders - Move Location - Vista Forums[11]=File Folder Settings
and this Relocating your user account to another drive
Gary | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS420 OS Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 CPU Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 2.40 gigahertz Memory Crucial Ballistix 4x2GB PC2 6400 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS 256 MB Sound Card Creative SB X-Fi audio Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207 + HPvs15 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 + 1024x768 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Mouse MX Revolution Hard Drives 2-WD5000AAKS-500 GB
WD5000AAV-500 GB external Other Info Wacom Intuos 2 Graphics Tablet
Experience Index=5.5 |
11 Apr 2009
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#3 | | |
Thank you, I did. They mostly address moving folders that already exist -- something of a nightmare, I gather, given the non-standard behavior of many software applications. What I'm hoping is that by having Windows 7 creat NEW accounts at the new location, rather than moving existing accounts, I'll avoid the problems.
Last edited by weh; 11 Apr 2009 at 09:10 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number home brew OS Win.7.Ult.x64 CPU Intel Core i7 970 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58-UD5 Memory 12GB (6x2GB) OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-R485MC-1GH, ATI 4850, 1GB GDDR3, passive cooler Sound Card (on-board) Speakers - Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Dell U2410 (H-IPS) Screen Resolution 1920x1200, 1920x1200 Keyboard Das Keyboard Professional, Logitech UltraX Mouse Logitech G400 PSU PCP&C S75QB Case Lian Li PC-V2010B + EX-H34 expansion HD cage Cooling Xigmatek HDT-1283 heatsink & bracket + Scythe S-Flex SFF21E Hard Drives System = Intel 320 160GB SSD --
Data = 2x WD2002FAEX, RAID1 (ICH10R) --
Backup = 5x WD20EARS (eSata port) --
Add'l Storage = 8x WD20EARS, RAID6 (Adaptec 5805) Internet Speed 6.85 Mb/s down, 0.35 Mb/s up (typical) Other Info Pioneer DVR-217DBK burner --
stock Lian Li case fans + BS-06 PCI 140mm exhaust (all set on 'low') |
11 Apr 2009
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#4 | | Slackware / Windows 7 x64 7100 Sarasota |
It sounds like you would have to do it during the install using WAIK: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number This and that with a bit more of this. OS Slackware / Windows 7 x64 7100 CPU AMD X2 5200+ Windsor Motherboard ECS (Yeah, I was broke) Memory 4GB DDR2 PC5300 Graphics Card GeForce 7300 GS 256MB Sound Card Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays Westinghouse 22 in LCD Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech S510 combo Mouse Logitech S510 Combo PSU Antec 450W Case Generic Cooling Lots.......sounds like an F-18 Hard Drives WD 320 GB
WD 500 GB x2
Maxtor OneTouch 4 Mini 250GB Internet Speed Fast |
11 Apr 2009
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#5 | | |
Thanks, I'm downloading it now. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number home brew OS Win.7.Ult.x64 CPU Intel Core i7 970 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58-UD5 Memory 12GB (6x2GB) OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-R485MC-1GH, ATI 4850, 1GB GDDR3, passive cooler Sound Card (on-board) Speakers - Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Dell U2410 (H-IPS) Screen Resolution 1920x1200, 1920x1200 Keyboard Das Keyboard Professional, Logitech UltraX Mouse Logitech G400 PSU PCP&C S75QB Case Lian Li PC-V2010B + EX-H34 expansion HD cage Cooling Xigmatek HDT-1283 heatsink & bracket + Scythe S-Flex SFF21E Hard Drives System = Intel 320 160GB SSD --
Data = 2x WD2002FAEX, RAID1 (ICH10R) --
Backup = 5x WD20EARS (eSata port) --
Add'l Storage = 8x WD20EARS, RAID6 (Adaptec 5805) Internet Speed 6.85 Mb/s down, 0.35 Mb/s up (typical) Other Info Pioneer DVR-217DBK burner --
stock Lian Li case fans + BS-06 PCI 140mm exhaust (all set on 'low') |
12 Apr 2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |

Quote: Originally Posted by weh Thank you, I did. They mostly address moving folders that already exist -- something of a nightmare, I gather, given the non-standard behavior of many software applications. What I'm hoping is that by having Windows 7 creat NEW accounts at the new location, rather than moving existing accounts, I'll avoid the problems. Not a nightmare at all.
I keep all the special folders on a separate physical HD, and on every install I have just logged in initially, and then changed the location from the default to the location that I want.
I agree, that moving the entire tree would be much nicer, but that in and of itself poses a lot of problems, you cannot just move the tree and in the registry and expect every thing to work, in *particular* legacy apps that look for the old XP folders will break, as well as anything that is hard coded to look for C:\Users\... 
Quote: Originally Posted by weh Thanks, I'm downloading it now. The WAIK is going to be the way to do it but it is long and drawn out. Over at MSFN a user was trying to get this done in Vista, and we did a lot of research on it - only to find out that it was neither practical nor reasonable. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
ASUS Transformer Infinity 64GB |
12 Apr 2009
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#7 | | |
Thanks you for your advice. I had hoped my hybrid approach of having Windows itself create the new accounts in the altered location would work. I'll begin delving the depths of the WAIK tomorrow. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number home brew OS Win.7.Ult.x64 CPU Intel Core i7 970 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58-UD5 Memory 12GB (6x2GB) OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-R485MC-1GH, ATI 4850, 1GB GDDR3, passive cooler Sound Card (on-board) Speakers - Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Dell U2410 (H-IPS) Screen Resolution 1920x1200, 1920x1200 Keyboard Das Keyboard Professional, Logitech UltraX Mouse Logitech G400 PSU PCP&C S75QB Case Lian Li PC-V2010B + EX-H34 expansion HD cage Cooling Xigmatek HDT-1283 heatsink & bracket + Scythe S-Flex SFF21E Hard Drives System = Intel 320 160GB SSD --
Data = 2x WD2002FAEX, RAID1 (ICH10R) --
Backup = 5x WD20EARS (eSata port) --
Add'l Storage = 8x WD20EARS, RAID6 (Adaptec 5805) Internet Speed 6.85 Mb/s down, 0.35 Mb/s up (typical) Other Info Pioneer DVR-217DBK burner --
stock Lian Li case fans + BS-06 PCI 140mm exhaust (all set on 'low') |
12 Apr 2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
Unfortunately, I am in school and don't have lot of free time - however, if you find a workable solution, or need hep testing something, let me know = we worked on this back in Vista days, but I would sure like to be able to do it even now so that all my settings are preserved between installs....
One thing though - last two times I have clean installed, and I have had to take ownership of the drive where I am currently storing all those folders and such....
That is something to think about, sine the owner information goes as far as assigning the SID, not just a name, and if you perform a clean install you get a new SID - with the end result being the old SID is still assigned as the owner, and you are forced to take some action to fix the issues.... | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
ASUS Transformer Infinity 64GB |
12 Apr 2009
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#9 | | |
I've already set up the machine using the procedure enumerated in my initial post. It seems to be working fine with the two dozen or so software packages I've installed on it thus far. My thinking was that by leaving the primary administrator account on C:\Users, should anything happen, I wouldn't be locked out -- and the secondary administrator account located on D:\Users would be used for day-to-day administration.
Once I finish, both the system drive and the data drive will actually be mirrored pairs (raid-1). In addition, both drives will be backed up daily to the large, internal storage array (three generations of full backups weekly with incremental backups daily) and I have plenty of external storage, as well (both external drives and two 6-drive NAS boxes).
I had assumed (yes, I know the old adage about assumptions) that if/when a rebuild/fresh-install became necessary, I'd simply use the new primary administrator account to re-establish connections to the then old D:\Users accounts and continue on as if nothing had happened. Oh, well ... C'est la vie. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number home brew OS Win.7.Ult.x64 CPU Intel Core i7 970 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58-UD5 Memory 12GB (6x2GB) OCZ Platinum DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-R485MC-1GH, ATI 4850, 1GB GDDR3, passive cooler Sound Card (on-board) Speakers - Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Dell U2410 (H-IPS) Screen Resolution 1920x1200, 1920x1200 Keyboard Das Keyboard Professional, Logitech UltraX Mouse Logitech G400 PSU PCP&C S75QB Case Lian Li PC-V2010B + EX-H34 expansion HD cage Cooling Xigmatek HDT-1283 heatsink & bracket + Scythe S-Flex SFF21E Hard Drives System = Intel 320 160GB SSD --
Data = 2x WD2002FAEX, RAID1 (ICH10R) --
Backup = 5x WD20EARS (eSata port) --
Add'l Storage = 8x WD20EARS, RAID6 (Adaptec 5805) Internet Speed 6.85 Mb/s down, 0.35 Mb/s up (typical) Other Info Pioneer DVR-217DBK burner --
stock Lian Li case fans + BS-06 PCI 140mm exhaust (all set on 'low') |
12 Apr 2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
With that setup, you will be able to do that, with the caveats I mentioned - and it should not take you all that long.... | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
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