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Windows 7: Windows 7 Will Be More Secure than linux and leopard?


14 Apr 2009   #1

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Windows 7 Will Be More Secure than linux and leopard?

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Will Windows 7 be the most secure operating system ever? Microsoft seem to think so. Microsoft’s Chief Operating Officer Kevin Turner made the following bold statement yesterday:
Vista today, post-Service Pack 2, which is now in the marketplace, is the safest, most reliable OS we’ve ever built. It’s also the most secure OS on the planet, including Linux and open source and Apple Leopard. It’s the safest and most secure OS on the planet today. Everything that we’ve learned in Vista will be leveraged in Windows 7, but certainly when we broke a lot of the compatibility issues to lock down user account controls, to lock do
wn the ability to manipulate states and all the things, that was a very painful process for us to grow through, but we had to do it. And the reason that Windows 7 will be successful is because of the pain we took on Vista. Because from a compatibility standpoint, if it works on Vista, it will work on Windows 7. If it doesn’t work on Vista, it won’t work on Windows 7.
I’m glad he stopped short of saying that Windows 7 will be the most secure operating system in the universe!
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what you guys think?
i doubt :O

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14 Apr 2009   #2

Slackware / Windows 7 x64 7100
 
 

He needs to back away from the crack pipe..............

Your PC is as secure as you make it....regardless of your OS but MS will be a target as long as they have a huge market share. Most hard core 'nix users have a secure rig with the exception of a majority of the Ubuntu fanboys.
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14 Apr 2009   #3

Windows 3.11
 
 

I don't think so!
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14 Apr 2009   #4

Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM)
 
 

i say the same..
security is is a as good as its weakest link...
currently the weakest link is the human (since you have to initiate the download/you have to go to a certain tainted website)....
if we can solve this problem then it would make infection alnost impossible...
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15 Apr 2009   #5

Windows 7 x64 & Ubuntu 9.04 x64
 
 

Not a chance - and it's not all to do with 'dey gotz market share' a lot of current viruses and malware are windows only because Windows was such a patchy, hole ridden OS to start with.

Windows 7 will likely be the most secure Windows OS yet... but that's not saying much if you can connect XP to the internet and get a virus within minutes by just browsing around...

It'll certainly never be as secure as Linux - but that's because Linux is built differently. Midori might be more secure, but Windows never will be.
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15 Apr 2009   #6

Vista H.P. SP1 x32 Seven RC x64
 
 

I do not have the time to read the artciel now. I'll do it later, but IMHO Windows Vista and Seven are at this not more secures than Linux or McOS... but they are not LESS secure then the other.

If we look in details where are the security holes... often it's not the OS, but the third-party software... And even Linux or McOS can not be 100% sur with bad software...
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15 Apr 2009   #7

XP SP3
 
 

IIRC, the exploit/cracker contest winner said MacOSX was the most vulnerable OS, even though it's built on top of UNIX.

A hardened UNIX is the most secure, followed by Linux, then MacOSX. This is simply by virtue of the idea that the more things you install, the more possible exploits/holes you expose yourself to. Unix tends to be barebones installation, linux slightly more so, and mac osx has a lot of extra glittery stuff unix and linux don't have.

No idea where Windows 7 would fit into that.

However, the above argument can't really be applied to desktops, as the user is always the weakest link. Someone using linux can go be an idiot and get owned faster than someone who knows what they're doing using win98.
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15 Apr 2009   #8

Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64
 
 

Hello black0ut,

Welcome to the Seven Forums.

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the user is always the weakest link. Someone using linux can go be an idiot and get owned faster than someone who knows what they're doing using win98.
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15 Apr 2009   #9

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SqdnGuns View Post
Your PC is as secure as you make it....regardless of your OS
This.
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15 Apr 2009   #10

Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by d0od View Post
Not a chance - and it's not all to do with 'dey gotz market share' a lot of current viruses and malware are windows only because Windows was such a patchy, hole ridden OS to start with.

Windows 7 will likely be the most secure Windows OS yet... but that's not saying much if you can connect XP to the internet and get a virus within minutes by just browsing around...

It'll certainly never be as secure as Linux - but that's because Linux is built differently. Midori might be more secure, but Windows never will be.
Go back and read a bit of history. In the beginning, UNIX was a patchy, hole ridden OS, also. It's just had 20 extra years on Windows to fix itself. The one who stated that the human interface is the buggiest of all is correct. Where do think the original rootkits came from? These were Unix problems back in the 70's.

Someone please explain to me what in Unix/Linux makes it more secure than Windows. Really, tell me the technology that makes them more secure. Windows (from NT on) actually has a tighter file security via ACLs. They are more fine-grained and can, when administered properly, provide a higher level of control than Unix.

The problem with Windows was that early on, MS allowed sloppy developers to code in such a way that you had to run as administrator, which in the windows world is not quite root (that would by system), but close enough to root to give malware plenty of free-reign. That was the reason for UAC, a kind of SUDO to allow the typical user to operate in User mode and only elevate when needed. What happened with that. UAC is listed as one of the main reasons Vista sucks. This security measure, that once your programs are installed, you may see once a week, or once a month, is listed as the main reason the OS sucks. This measure has now been dummied down in Win 7 to be basically useless.

The bottom line is that your typical *nix user is more security savvy. They understand the inherent risks of installing software and are usually less likely to be lured into a malware situation. They are also not the target of massive malware exploits. Between *nixs and OSX, they all make up about 5% of the worldwide market share. Malware is not about proving your programming prowess. It is about making money and having a target of 95% of the market is the most cost beneficial.

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