| Windows 7: Windows 7 Will Be More Secure than linux and leopard? |
14 Apr 2009
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Windows 7 Will Be More Secure than linux and leopard? Quote: Will Windows 7 be the most secure operating system ever? Microsoft seem to think so. Microsoft’s Chief Operating Officer Kevin Turner made the following bold statement yesterday: Vista today, post-Service Pack 2, which is now in the marketplace, is the safest, most reliable OS we’ve ever built. It’s also the most secure OS on the planet, including Linux and open source and Apple Leopard. It’s the safest and most secure OS on the planet today. Everything that we’ve learned in Vista will be leveraged in Windows 7, but certainly when we broke a lot of the compatibility issues to lock down user account controls, to lock do
wn the ability to manipulate states and all the things, that was a very painful process for us to grow through, but we had to do it. And the reason that Windows 7 will be successful is because of the pain we took on Vista. Because from a compatibility standpoint, if it works on Vista, it will work on Windows 7. If it doesn’t work on Vista, it won’t work on Windows 7. I’m glad he stopped short of saying that Windows 7 will be the most secure operating system in the universe! READ MORE: http://windows7news.com/2009/04/14/m...x-and-leopard/
what you guys think?
i doubt :O | My System Specs |
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14 Apr 2009
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#2 | | Slackware / Windows 7 x64 7100 Sarasota |
He needs to back away from the crack pipe..............
Your PC is as secure as you make it....regardless of your OS but MS will be a target as long as they have a huge market share. Most hard core 'nix users have a secure rig with the exception of a majority of the Ubuntu fanboys. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number This and that with a bit more of this. OS Slackware / Windows 7 x64 7100 CPU AMD X2 5200+ Windsor Motherboard ECS (Yeah, I was broke) Memory 4GB DDR2 PC5300 Graphics Card GeForce 7300 GS 256MB Sound Card Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays Westinghouse 22 in LCD Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech S510 combo Mouse Logitech S510 Combo PSU Antec 450W Case Generic Cooling Lots.......sounds like an F-18 Hard Drives WD 320 GB
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I don't think so! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number IBM OS Windows 3.11 CPU Pentium 386 Memory 12 MB Graphics Card 2 MB Monitor(s) Displays 12" Screen Resolution 640X480 Hard Drives 100 MB Internet Speed 1 kb/s Other Info I Love my PC! |
14 Apr 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) In a ∞ Portal |
i say the same..
security is is a as good as its weakest link...
currently the weakest link is the human (since you have to initiate the download/you have to go to a certain tainted website).... 
if we can solve this problem then it would make infection alnost impossible... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Tx2500z Tablet Pc/Homemade Server OS Windows 7 Ult x64(x2), HomePrem x32(x4), Server 08 (+VM), 08 R2 (VM) , SuSe 11.2 (VM), XP 32 (VM) CPU Turion X2 ultra (oh well came with laptop)/P4 @3.2 (yes P4) Motherboard IDK HP Motherboard / Intel DG965SS Memory OCZ Dual Channel 4GB kit/ 1gb Dual Channel Graphics Card HD 3200 graphics /GMA x3100 (yay for intergrated!!) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio(mic working, well sort of)/Siig IC-70012 Monitor(s) Displays built-in Hp 12" laptop screen/ Acer 19" Screen Resolution 1280x800 /1440x900 Mouse Logi MX Rev. /MS Wheel Optical 1.1A /Logitech Optical Mouse Cooling All Air Cooled Internet Speed College baby but its still routed through vpn to 1536k... Other Info love my wacom pen and pressure sensitivity...
wished it worked in 7, SUSE for that matter though |
15 Apr 2009
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#5 | | Windows 7 x64 & Ubuntu 9.04 x64 |
Not a chance - and it's not all to do with 'dey gotz market share' a lot of current viruses and malware are windows only because Windows was such a patchy, hole ridden OS to start with.
Windows 7 will likely be the most secure Windows OS yet... but that's not saying much if you can connect XP to the internet and get a virus within minutes by just browsing around...
It'll certainly never be as secure as Linux - but that's because Linux is built differently. Midori might be more secure, but Windows never will be. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Made by moi :) OS Windows 7 x64 & Ubuntu 9.04 x64 CPU AMD64x2 6000+ 3.0Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte... something. Memory 4GB 2x2GB @ 667Mhz Graphics Card GeForce 8500GT Sound Card Onboard bebbe! Monitor(s) Displays 19" LCD and 17" LCD Screen Resolution 1440x900 & 1280x1024 Keyboard Saitek Blue LED PSU 750W Case Mac Pro Style Brushed Aliminum Cooling Zalman Hard Drives 160GB Maxtor 7600RPM, 80GB 7600RPM
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15 Apr 2009
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#6 | | Vista H.P. SP1 x32 Seven RC x64 |
I do not have the time to read the artciel now. I'll do it later, but IMHO Windows Vista and Seven are at this not more secures than Linux or McOS... but they are not LESS secure then the other.
If we look in details where are the security holes... often it's not the OS, but the third-party software... And even Linux or McOS can not be 100% sur with bad software... | My System Specs | | OS Vista H.P. SP1 x32 Seven RC x64 CPU Q6600 @ 3.4Ghz Motherboard GA-EP45-DS3L Memory 4Go PC2-6400 Graphics Card 8500GT @ 700/500 Sound Card Audigy Platinium Monitor(s) Displays Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 920 + Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 720 Screen Resolution 1600x1200 twice Keyboard MS Wireless Multimedia 6000 V2.0 Mouse IntellEye Explorer 3.0 PSU Corsair VX550W Case Thermaltake Xaser III Cooling Watercooling (CPU, GPU, HDD, NB) Hard Drives Hitachi 160Go
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IIRC, the exploit/cracker contest winner said MacOSX was the most vulnerable OS, even though it's built on top of UNIX.
A hardened UNIX is the most secure, followed by Linux, then MacOSX. This is simply by virtue of the idea that the more things you install, the more possible exploits/holes you expose yourself to. Unix tends to be barebones installation, linux slightly more so, and mac osx has a lot of extra glittery stuff unix and linux don't have.
No idea where Windows 7 would fit into that.
However, the above argument can't really be applied to desktops, as the user is always the weakest link. Someone using linux can go be an idiot and get owned faster than someone who knows what they're doing using win98. | My System Specs | | |
15 Apr 2009
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#8 | | Vista Ult 64 bit Seven Ult RTM x64 Maine, USA |
Hello black0ut,
Welcome to the Seven Forums. 
Quote: Originally Posted by black0ut the user is always the weakest link. Someone using linux can go be an idiot and get owned faster than someone who knows what they're doing using win98.
Hope you enjoy your stay.
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15 Apr 2009
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 QC, Canada |

Quote: Originally Posted by SqdnGuns Your PC is as secure as you make it....regardless of your OS This. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 950 3.06 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte X58A-UD3R Memory Corsair XSM3 6GB 1333MHz DDR3 9-9-9-24 Graphics Card Asus nVidia GeForce GTX460 Factory Overclocked Sound Card HT-Omega Claro 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays Asus VW246H 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech K350 Mouse Logitech M510 PSU Xigmatek NRP-PC702 700W (cable hell) Case Lian-Li Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Stock fans for PC case, Cooler Master Hyper N520 for CPU Hard Drives 1x90GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (System, internal)
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15 Apr 2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 x64 (RTM via MSDN) Redlands, CA |

Quote: Originally Posted by d0od Not a chance - and it's not all to do with 'dey gotz market share' a lot of current viruses and malware are windows only because Windows was such a patchy, hole ridden OS to start with.
Windows 7 will likely be the most secure Windows OS yet... but that's not saying much if you can connect XP to the internet and get a virus within minutes by just browsing around...
It'll certainly never be as secure as Linux - but that's because Linux is built differently. Midori might be more secure, but Windows never will be. Go back and read a bit of history. In the beginning, UNIX was a patchy, hole ridden OS, also. It's just had 20 extra years on Windows to fix itself. The one who stated that the human interface is the buggiest of all is correct. Where do think the original rootkits came from? These were Unix problems back in the 70's.
Someone please explain to me what in Unix/Linux makes it more secure than Windows. Really, tell me the technology that makes them more secure. Windows (from NT on) actually has a tighter file security via ACLs. They are more fine-grained and can, when administered properly, provide a higher level of control than Unix.
The problem with Windows was that early on, MS allowed sloppy developers to code in such a way that you had to run as administrator, which in the windows world is not quite root (that would by system), but close enough to root to give malware plenty of free-reign. That was the reason for UAC, a kind of SUDO to allow the typical user to operate in User mode and only elevate when needed. What happened with that. UAC is listed as one of the main reasons Vista sucks. This security measure, that once your programs are installed, you may see once a week, or once a month, is listed as the main reason the OS sucks. This measure has now been dummied down in Win 7 to be basically useless.
The bottom line is that your typical *nix user is more security savvy. They understand the inherent risks of installing software and are usually less likely to be lured into a malware situation. They are also not the target of massive malware exploits. Between *nixs and OSX, they all make up about 5% of the worldwide market share. Malware is not about proving your programming prowess. It is about making money and having a target of 95% of the market is the most cost beneficial.
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