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Windows 7 - This is weird. A super-hidden file? |
03-24-2010
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This is weird. A super-hidden file? I have set my folder options to "Show all Hidden Files". There is this folder with 160 files inside.
When I am inside the folder, select all 160 files, right-click, select Properties, it mentions that there are 160 files.
However when I am outside the folder, select the folder, right-click, select Properties, it tells me that there are 161 files now.
Does anyone know what is wrong? How can it be that there is one file hidden from view even though I have set to "Show all Hidden Files"? Is this some kind of super-hidden file?
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03-24-2010
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Try also the Folder Options>View choice to show Protected OS files.
Those two choices should allow you to see all files.
Last edited by gregrocker; 03-24-2010 at 09:52 AM..
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03-24-2010
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Isnt there another option to still keep system files hidden even when you have show hidden files enabled?
the 161th file might be a system file | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUS G60-RBBX05 OS Win7 Home Premium 64x CPU Intel Core 2 Duo P7450 / 2.13 GHz (2.29 with Extreme Turbo) Memory 4 GB PC-6400 Hyundai (2X2) at 800Mhz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M 1GB DDR3 VRAM Monitor(s) Displays 16" LED Backlit Screen Resolution 1366 x 768 on laptop 1600x1050 max res on 22" external mon Keyboard Chicklet type back-lit (white light) keyboard Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse 3200dpi and 1000 reports per minute PSU 6-cell Lithium ion { lasts 1.5 hours } Case ASUS G60 Laptop Hard Drives 320 GB - Serial ATA-150 - 7200 rpm Internet Speed Comcast 8.60mb/s up - 3.11mb/s down Other Info General mid-budget gaming Comp. Low batterylife - High FrameRates - Looking into upgrading CPU and adding SSD |
03-24-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Try also the Folder Options>View choice to show Protected OS files.
Those two choices should allow you to see all files. I see. Just curious, what kind of system files would get created in a folder I created for video files?
Edit: Seems like it was the thumbs.db file. Thanks gregrocker.
Last edited by Ravanx; 03-24-2010 at 11:29 AM..
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03-24-2010
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And here's the weirder part - in another similar case. I have a folder with 9 files on hard disk A. However when I select the folder (not the files), right-click, select Properties, it tells me that there are 8 files.
Now, when I backup hard disk A manually on hard disk B, that particular folder is copied over as well. When I select the folder (not the files) on hard disk B, right-click, select Properties, it tells me that there are 10 files now.
Edit: The part on the extra additional file from thin air seems to be solved. It was the thumbs.db file, a relic from Win XP. However, what about the issue in which I have 9 files but "Properties" only mentions 8?
Last edited by Ravanx; 03-24-2010 at 11:28 AM..
Reason: The 1st part is solved. What about the 2nd (regarding the 9 files), anyone knows?
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03-24-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ravanx I have set my folder options to "Show all Hidden Files". There is this folder with 160 files inside.
When I am inside the folder, select all 160 files, right-click, select Properties, it mentions that there are 160 files.
However when I am outside the folder, select the folder, right-click, select Properties, it tells me that there are 161 files now.
Does anyone know what is wrong? How can it be that there is one file hidden from view even though I have set to "Show all Hidden Files"? Is this some kind of super-hidden file? If you are inside the file it's not going to count the one you're in, so when you go to the outside of that file it will add the one you just left. Inside-160 Outside-161. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number compaq sr5410f case OS Windows 7 Pro 64 SP1 CPU AMD X2 4450E @ 2.3 ghz Motherboard Biostar MCP6P M2+ Memory 4.0 g Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 9600 GT , 512mb Sound Card onboard Monitor(s) Displays auria eq2367 Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard logitech wave cordless Mouse logitech LX8 cordless laser mouse PSU 250 watts Case compaq Cooling couple fans Hard Drives 1 tb Hitachi HDT721010SLA scsi, 500 gb external Internet Speed comcast hi speed 19 dn 8 up Other Info Laptop specs: HP g7-1365dx /
CPU: AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics /
RAM: Crucial 8Gb (2x4Gb) /
SSD: Crucial M4-CT128M4SSD2 ATA Device/ FW 000F /
GFX: AMD Radeon HD 6520G /
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 |
03-24-2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9 Gnome 32 Bit |
Well I guess there are some super hidden files that are just suspicious. There are times that when the anti virus detects a hidden threat in your USB, usually with weird names even if you enable to show hidden files in the folder options, you look inside the USB and you still don't see the hidden virus file with a weird name.
There are also temp files that disappear. Such as when you open a saved Word document, a temp file is created in the same folder where the Word document is saved then disappears shortly after you have closed the Word document. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32 Bit, Windows Developer Preview, Linux Mint 9 Gnome 32 Bit CPU Intel Pentium Dual CPU E2180@2GHz Motherboard Elitegroup 671T-M3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7200 GS Monitor(s) Displays AOC TFT1560 15" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1024x768 Keyboard Logitech USB Keyboard |
03-24-2010
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#8 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Vertex There are times that when the anti virus detects a hidden threat in your USB, usually with weird names even if you enable to show hidden files in the folder options, you look inside the USB and you still don't see the hidden virus file with a weird name. Welcome to Malware.
Most, but not all malware, can be removed with MSE (microsoft security essentials) or MalwareBytes anti-malware. Malwarebytes | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite L305D laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core QL-64, 2100 Mhz, 2 Cores Motherboard TOSHIBA Portable PC (Socket M2/S1G1) Memory 4.0GB (2x2GB) DDR2 @ 333MHz 5-5-5-15 Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3100 Graphics (Toshiba) Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor @ 1280x800 Screen Resolution 1280 x 800 Keyboard standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives 125.03GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device (IDE)
Depending upon testing, organized as 1,2, or 3 partitions with/without a 100mb system partition at the front. Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drives HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-T50N ATA Device
Synaptics PS/2 Port TouchPad
Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
03-24-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Vertex Well I guess there are some super hidden files that are just suspicious. There are times that when the anti virus detects a hidden threat in your USB, usually with weird names even if you enable to show hidden files in the folder options, you look inside the USB and you still don't see the hidden virus file with a weird name.
There are also temp files that disappear. Such as when you open a saved Word document, a temp file is created in the same folder where the Word document is saved then disappears shortly after you have closed the Word document. The word thing is it's saving an ongoing auto backup of your edits so that if word or the computer crashes you can recover most or all of your editing. But when you save the document or exit word normally then there is no need for the live backup. The file is deleted by word when no longer needed.
I don;t know about the super hidden files though. What I do know is that it's possible through the windows api to create files/folders such that explorer has a hard time dealing with them. NTFS allows folder paths up to either 1024 or 4096 characters in length but explorer will choke on anything > 256 bytes for example. I don;t know all the tricks but there may be ways which virus writers use that specifically cause explorer to not show the files but using other (better) file tools you'd see them. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Scratch built OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU i7 960 Motherboard Asus P6X58D Memory 12 Gig Corsair Dominator Graphics Card Nvidia 480 Sound Card Maudio Delta 44 + breakout box Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U2410 24in and Samsung 21 dual monitors Screen Resolution 1920x1200 and 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitech G15 + N52 game pad Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corasair TX850 Case Cooler Master HAF Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives Primary: Intel X-25M G2 160G SSD
Secondary: Segate baracuda 1.0 TB
HDs in AHCI mode. Internet Speed 15kbs down 4.5kbps up Other Info WEI 7.6
CPU & RAM 7.6
Graphics 7.9
Hard disk 7.7 |
03-24-2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Vertex Well I guess there are some super hidden files that are just suspicious. There are times that when the anti virus detects a hidden threat in your USB, usually with weird names even if you enable to show hidden files in the folder options, you look inside the USB and you still don't see the hidden virus file with a weird name.
There are also temp files that disappear. Such as when you open a saved Word document, a temp file is created in the same folder where the Word document is saved then disappears shortly after you have closed the Word document. When you are working with a Word Document, the temporary document is there as long as you have that document open. Should you have a power outage or should Word crash, you can restore your document from that temporary file. Any canges you made in the document will not be there; it is a copy of the document as you opened it. When you save or close the document, the temporary file is deleted. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz Motherboard ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5 Memory 2.50 GB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS Sound Card SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX 1962 wm Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050 Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB Mouse Logitec optic USB Cooling Fan based Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB Internet Speed 3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload This is weird. A super-hidden file? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:56 AM. |  |