| Windows 7: Authoring MMC Panels |
11 Apr 2010
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Authoring MMC Panels Among the numerous flat-out ridiculous problems with Windows 7 I've had since moving from XP one of the more annoying is the in-ability to save authoring changes to MMC (.msc) panels.
In every single OS version that uses these panels I've been able as a user (or admin) to right click and author the panel, customizing it to my liking (I prefer my own versions of services, compmgmt and event viewer) but alas in this "wonder" version of Windows Microsoft decided not to allow that to happen.
I seriously wonder if Microsoft is being taken over by those who wish it to fail..but to continue.
First, it seems all of the MSC files are owned by "trustedinstaller" - after changing the ownership to me, authoring still fails. Using "run as administrator", fails. Even after I take ownership and MMC allows me to save over the MSC file, *none* of the changes I made to the file take effect.
Even stopping protected storage does nothing.
Now, yes, I can create a brand new MMC panel, add (for example) services to it, change the icon and use that instead as that will allow me to save my own look and feel but why the hell should I have to do that when I can just save the services.msc? | My System Specs |
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11 Apr 2010
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Another method in which to force you to convert. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Apple Macbook Pro (April 2009) OS W7 Ult. x64 | OS X CPU Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo 2.93Ghz [T9800 Penryn] Motherboard NVIDIA nForce 730i Rev. B1 [Mac-F2268EC8 (U2E1)] Memory 4096MB Samsung DDR3 Dual Channel [PC3-8500F 1066Mhz] Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT 512MB [G96M Rev. C1] Sound Card SB X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB | Onboard Realtek (Disabled) Monitor(s) Displays Acer x223wbd 22" | Apple Anti-Glare 17" (Disabled) Screen Resolution {Current} 1440x900 {Acer} 1680x1050 {Apple} 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G-15v2 [PN 920-000379] Mouse Logitech G-9 [PN 910-000338] PSU Magsafe Case Aluminum/Unibody (MBP52) Cooling 2 x 6000 RPM Fans Hard Drives {Internal}
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11 Apr 2010
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#3 | | Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. Denmark |
This is not meant rudely! But perhaps Microsoft did not give it much focus? Why would you want to "author" (You mean delete items, instead of disable..etc<) the panels. They are not meant for frequent use, and do not trouble the user in any way. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Three desktops and one laptop with good specs.. OS Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. |
11 Apr 2010
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Try taking ownership of, and then authoring the .msc's in : C:\Windows\System32\en-US
Works for me.. | My System Specs | | |
11 Apr 2010
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#5 | | XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 Southern Ontario Canada |

Quote: Originally Posted by gmerideth Among the numerous flat-out ridiculous problems with Windows 7 I've had since moving from XP one of the more annoying is the in-ability to save authoring changes to MMC (.msc) panels.
In every single OS version that uses these panels I've been able as a user (or admin) to right click and author the panel, customizing it to my liking (I prefer my own versions of services, compmgmt and event viewer) but alas in this "wonder" version of Windows Microsoft decided not to allow that to happen.
I seriously wonder if Microsoft is being taken over by those who wish it to fail..but to continue.
First, it seems all of the MSC files are owned by "trustedinstaller" - after changing the ownership to me, authoring still fails. Using "run as administrator", fails. Even after I take ownership and MMC allows me to save over the MSC file, *none* of the changes I made to the file take effect.
Even stopping protected storage does nothing.
Now, yes, I can create a brand new MMC panel, add (for example) services to it, change the icon and use that instead as that will allow me to save my own look and feel but why the hell should I have to do that when I can just save the services.msc? Naaa.. it's not that.
When you load the .MSC directly you get the default settings. However, when you enclose it in a wrapper by including it into MMC.exe the wrapper does save your settings... I get that it's easier your way but that's not the way they did it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Homebrew OS XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 CPU Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz) Motherboard Asus M2N-MX SE Plus Memory Kingston DDR2 800 2gb Graphics Card Nvidia GF-8400 Sound Card Realtek on Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays Acer x-193bw Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard yes Mouse yes PSU 350watt In-Win Case In-Win Cooling Air Hard Drives Western Digital 500g Internet Speed 5mpbs Other Info Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP). |
12 Apr 2010
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#6 | | Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. Denmark |
Fwiw. Mine are in System32 (not en-US). I run as the Administrator. Right clicking any of them in System 32 gives me a menu option to "Author" This option is not available to me if I open the panel through through "run" or similar. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Three desktops and one laptop with good specs.. OS Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. |
12 Apr 2010
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I've attempted running them as administrators, taking ownership of the whole directory, authoring, nothing works. My point is that in previous editions, authoring allowed you to customize the panels to your liking. In Windows 7 Microsoft left the "author" option on the MSC files but ignores your changes to them once you've closed them. Poor planning and programming. | My System Specs | | |
12 Apr 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86 |
gmerideth,
Since nothing else works, try copying the msc to the root of your drive (C:\), then customize and see if you can save the changes. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Too many to describe... OS Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86 |
12 Apr 2010
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#9 | | XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 Southern Ontario Canada |

Quote: Originally Posted by gmerideth I've attempted running them as administrators, taking ownership of the whole directory, authoring, nothing works. My point is that in previous editions, authoring allowed you to customize the panels to your liking. In Windows 7 Microsoft left the "author" option on the MSC files but ignores your changes to them once you've closed them. Poor planning and programming. I agree... but it's not impossible.... the attachment is just about all the important ones combined and you can change collumns, set views etc and they are saved. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Homebrew OS XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86 CPU Amd 64 x2 4200 (2.4ghz) Motherboard Asus M2N-MX SE Plus Memory Kingston DDR2 800 2gb Graphics Card Nvidia GF-8400 Sound Card Realtek on Motherboard Monitor(s) Displays Acer x-193bw Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 Keyboard yes Mouse yes PSU 350watt In-Win Case In-Win Cooling Air Hard Drives Western Digital 500g Internet Speed 5mpbs Other Info Also ASRock ION 330 as HTPC (on XP).
Acer Aspire as GP netbook (on XP). |
13 Dec 2010
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gmeridith, I feel your pain. I've been trying to "fix" the services.msc file as well, but no such luck. I can take ownership and edit it, but the changes just don't stick. I suppose this is one way that Microsoft has come up with to keep the OS secure. | My System Specs | | Authoring MMC Panels problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:51 PM. | |