Can't Access "Default User" folder in Users Folder

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  1. Posts : 167
    Vista
    Thread Starter
       #21

    And that is because of my unintentional hacking and fiddling with the junction called "Default User" that IDIODICALLY shows up in the "Users" folder despite the fact "Hide protected system files" is checked in folder options. What bull...

    Anyway, someone please answer my previous question...does Startup Repair affect any personal data? I didn't see an answer in the link for Startup Repair provided by Thorsen.

    And what is really my best option now, considering system restore failed me? To give better information, when I create a new user account, it cannot even load up. The User Service fails and it logs right off to the switch user menu.
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  2. Posts : 11,990
    Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
       #22

    Unless someone has a better idea, it looks to me as if it is time for a Repair Install. Can you back up your personal data?
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  3. Posts : 167
    Vista
    Thread Starter
       #23

    I'm doing that now.

    Would anyone know what the repair install would do in my specific case? Say the "Default User" junction, as well as the "Default" folder were deleted completely...would the repair install just remake those?

    And if they were edited, would the repair install just re-edit them back to what they were initially (what they contained, and their security settings)

    Just wondering that's all. I know I can just try it but I'm deciding between doing a clean install or a repair.
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  4. Posts : 5,642
    Windows 10 Pro (x64)
       #24

    Do you have more then one account already established? Like Administrator or another user? If so just copy one of the user account folders and rename it to "Default" or setup a virtual machine with Windows 7 and copy the "Default" folder to the host machine. Really all you actually need are the NTUSER.DAT (Registry) files.

    I, by-the-way, have no "Default User" junction on my machine any longer. I don't need that level of compatibility.
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  5. Posts : 167
    Vista
    Thread Starter
       #25

    Virtal machine?

    And dude, I have the default folder in my users folder. It's just not shown, and it has all the right folders inside it.

    Despite that, I can't create new account and log onto them.

    I really hope this repair install fixes the problem...which makes me ask my next question, what if my public folder was deleted? Would a repair install fix that?

    I don't seem to get what exactly the Repair Install resets and what it doesn't...

    It says it doesn't change personal data...and downloaded drivers and programs I suppose.

    So, does that mean it changes EVERYTHING but personal user folders (so that means it WOULD change folders "Public" and "Default", as well as the junction for "Default" in the folder "Users" and just not the personal user folders?) and except programs and drivers you have downloaded?
    Last edited by Wandering Flame; 15 Apr 2010 at 07:18.
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  6. Posts : 11,990
    Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
       #26

    If you have backed up all your data to another partition or another drive, you can do a clean install and you will know you have gotten rid of any problems, However, I would try the repair install first and see what you have.

    The repair install will change most of your custom settings settings back to default.
    Last edited by CarlTR6; 15 Apr 2010 at 08:24. Reason: Typo
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  7. Posts : 1,170
    XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
       #27

    logicearth said:
    Do you have more then one account already established? Like Administrator or another user? If so just copy one of the user account folders and rename it to "Default" or setup a virtual machine with Windows 7 and copy the "Default" folder to the host machine. Really all you actually need are the NTUSER.DAT (Registry) files.

    I, by-the-way, have no "Default User" junction on my machine any longer. I don't need that level of compatibility.
    Except that the copy of NTUSER from another account is branded with their account code, software settings and customizations they've made. That is literally the HKEY_CURRENT_USER branch of the registry.
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  8. Posts : 167
    Vista
    Thread Starter
       #28

    Fine, I'll try the repair install first, then the clean install if it doesn't fix the problem.
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  9. Posts : 167
    Vista
    Thread Starter
       #29

    Boy, do I seriously wish on the first page notsograymatter's post came AFTER logicearth's, because logicearth's post is what told me I should even go near what I did...and notsograymatter's post told me how to take access of something I SHOULDN'T have tried getting access to, no offense to NSGM, just saying.

    Over at Vista forums, I got the following reply:

    "The attached is what your Users\Default folder should contain (produced using following command):

    C:\Windows\System32>dir c:\users\default /A /s > "C:\Users Default.txt"

    I think the only critical file is NTUSER.DAT (but I wouldn't bet the farm on it). You can create the others directly or by copying from your own Users folder. You could also try copying the NTUSER.DAT file from Windows\System32\Config\SystemProfile.

    If the actual Users\Default folder still exists in your Recycle bin, I'd try checking to see if any/all of these files are still there, but that's unlikely, and restoring that folder directly instead of the "Users\Default User" folder. The only entry "Users\Default User" needs is the junction point redirecting to the Users\Default folder.

    The Repair option might do it for you. If it doesn't work as is, I'd try deleting the whole Users\Default folder and retrying.

    Otherwise, sounds like a reinstall if you need to add a User ID...

    Keep in mind that I'm flying by the seat of my pants here; as I said, screwing around with these folders is dangerous, and often brings the "law of unintended consequences" into play."



    Is this guy saying what I think he is? If I just go to that address on my computer, and copy+paste an unnaffected version of the text file (his) that it would re-create the junction that was destroyed?
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  10. Posts : 1,170
    XP Pro SP3 X86 / Win7 Pro X86
       #30

    Wandering Flame said:
    Boy, do I seriously wish on the first page notsograymatter's post came AFTER logicearth's, because logicearth's post is what told me I should even go near what I did...and notsograymatter's post told me how to take access of something I SHOULDN'T have tried getting access to, no offense to NSGM, just saying.
    Well... this is a volunteer forum, nobody gets trained or paid for the advice they offer here... Even worse we are divorced from the problem; that is, we're not sitting at the computer where we can really see what's going on... We're all going to be right sometimes and wrong others. The best we can do is offer you choices and opinions so the old saying applies: Caveat Emptor.

    Just do bear in mind that ALL of us have sincerely tried to help you with your problem... I didn't see anyone attempting to misguide you or hassle you.
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