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Windows 7: 64 bit = 32bit?

02 May 2009   #31
swarfega

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

Actually they are different. MS recently announced the minspec which for RAM is: Memory: 1Gb of RAM (32-bit); 2Gb of RAM (64-bit)

See: Microsoft Releases Windows 7 Minimum Requirements


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02 May 2009   #32
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

The 7 minimum was raised when that assessment was far more accurate for Vista. In reality 7 is far from the resource hound that many complained about Vista being there. MS has done a great deal of refinement to take out the "bloated feeling" seen with Vista.

In reverse the Vista rerequirements apply more to 7 seeing the 512mb minimum with Vista needing the 1gb minimum standard. But you also have to take into account the capacities seen with hardwares at this time compared to what was seen only 3yrs. ago while Vista was still in development.

Basically MS is starting to set the standards just above the actual in order to avoid the past mistakes seen with the previous version. Don't knock it people when MS is starting to consider what the customer is looking at for a change!
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03 May 2009   #33
PNutts

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Handycam View Post
Should I have x86? What is the criteria on picking either?
Here's a brief summary on choosing between the two:
http://www.w7forums.com/windows-7-64...-bit-t484.html

With that said, I'm running an x86 version for the first time in years starting with 7100. The reason is two programs that aren't yet compatible in x64 so I decided to go x86 for awhile. My system has 4 GB of RAM and can handle x64.

My quick answer is that you were already on x64 with Vista then stay with it. If not, stick with x86. The transition from x86 to x64 can be "interesting".
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03 May 2009   #34
damoh

Windows 7 RTM x64
 
 

The only diff i noticed with my 6 gig was that the other day my son opened a game which took a gig of ram. Then i unknowingly opened another game which took another gig, plus the system use. I didnt even noticed until i finished playing and saw the icon in the taskbar. Thats one of the only things ive noticed having more then 3 gig
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03 May 2009   #35
7077

Windows 7 Ultimate RC1 x64
 
 

Hi.

Currenty I have Vista Ultimate 32-bit installed on my PC, yes, 32-bit as I haven't noticed anything so much better working on 64-bit Vista Ultimate.
Please consider that I'm no gamer that needs extra good pc

But in a couple of days I'm going to install official Windows 7 and was wondering whether to install the 64-bit version or 32-bit (x86).
Yes, I also know that the topic has been discussed countless times, but still...

The point is that I once has Windows 7 32-bit installed on my PC (I believe the 7068) and It worked like a charm, except that it wasn't the "ooficial" OS and I couldn't install updates.

Now, I'd like your oppinion (or should I say, advice) if the 64-bit Windows would work better and faster which would mean I'd "upgrade" to 64-bit technology... Or there is no significant difference and I stay on 32-bit for a bit longer.


Thanks in advance.
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03 May 2009   #36
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

I would suggect getting a first hand look at both! Eventually everything will be moving into the 64bit world anyways.

That would allow you to make the comparison of each for things like compatibility, driver issues to resolve unless you can't find any Vista at least 64bit driver updates available. For a tv tuner card here with "NO" 64bit driver support it not only works on the 64bit for viewing but records what you watch as well. That's with 32bit device drivers on.
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04 May 2009   #37
fakeasdf

Win 7 Pro x64 x 3, Win 7 Pro x86, Ubuntu 9.04
 
 

I suggest 64 bit, unless drivers are an issue... I actually was trying out 64 bit winrar earlier today and it was taking about 3/4 of the time to compress things with the 64 bit version than the 32 bit version... I also have been using th 64 bit version of Vegas Video. It's been working well, the only fun thing I've had to deal with is I've needed to get 64 bit codecs to work properly with it
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04 May 2009   #38
jonmobrien

Windows 7 RC1 Build 71000
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by McBlzr View Post
Well my x64 sure is faster than my first C-64
But the C-64 was faster than Vista.
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04 May 2009   #39
jonmobrien

Windows 7 RC1 Build 71000
 
 

There was rarely any need for a 64-bit O/S to date - the 3GB limit of XP and Vista was not an issue when 256MB was standard in an original XP box and 512MB standard in a Vista box.

Only when installing Windows SP3, Office SP3, and all updates and the latest Symantec version and updates, preloading Adobe reader, Java, IE8, VNC, etc, etc, etc, and try firing up Photoshop or something, we are finding now that 2GB is not enough and just getting by with the limit of 3GB. So Microsoft had no real issue with 32 bit XP and Vista.

But - just like they did not release a 16 bit Windows 95, they should NOT release a 32-bit Windows7!! 1GB is their required minimum, but it is obvious that standard Windows 7 users installing Office 2010, Adobe 12, etc, will be needing more than 3GB very shortly with no upgrade path possible. The only option to activate additional RAM being to purchase a new retail Win7x64 and doing a clean install.

As Windows 95 stayed in the mainstream for 7 years, and Windows XP will be mainstream for 7 years minimum (and with XP Mode in Win 7, it's quite possible legacy Win XP machines will be around even longer), can't we expect Win7 to be mainstream until at least 2016? And with 4GB of RAM today costing the same as 512MB did 7 years ago, 4, 6, 8, 12, and 16GB of RAM will sequentially become as cheap as chips, but with x86 builds unable to use anything above 3GB.

The only reason there are 64-bit driver issues is because there is not much demand for them. But if manufacturers were told there is no Win7 32 bit, they would have no choice but to write 64-bit drivers. Writing 64 bit drivers is no more difficult or timely than writing new drivers for any new operating system. If 64 bit Windows 7 was the only Windows 7, manufactures would have had Win 7 64 bit drivers done as fast as they are currently making 32 bit Win 7 drivers.

And already today there are a significant number of 64-bit Vista builds using 64-bit drivers. Unlike XP-64, Vista-64 has a non-negligible take-up and manufacturers have acknowledged that Win7-64 will be almost as popular as Win7-32, so by RTM, 64-bit Win-7 will not be an issue.
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04 May 2009   #40
Night Hawk

W7 Ultimate x64/W10 Pro x64 dual boot main build-remote pc W10 Pro x64 Insider Preview/W7 Pro x64
 
 

Did not release a 16bit 95? Windows 3.1 95's predessor was 16bit as well as 95! Sorry but you goofed on that one. The OSR2 release(SP equivalent) for 95 actually saw some 32bit support for 95 there as well.
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