| Windows 7: Help needed on systray problem |
02 May 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit |
Help needed on systray problem Hey Guys.
Can anyone tell me why my icons in systray,specifically Eset Nod32 and Deamon tools icons disappear whenever my computer is switched off at the wall socket?
I switch off all my pc/peripherals at night at the wall socket to save energi, and only 1 pc has this annoying problem. I thought it would be solved with new hardware,as i just upgraded from a core 2 duo 6750/asus mb (which also had the problem) to my current core I5 750/gigabit mb.
The programs themselves seem to load fine even though the systray icons are not there. And if i do a few reboots, everything goes back to normal.
Hardware these days of energy saving shouldn´t have to rely on a constant standby current,isn´t that what the internal battery is for?
Any explanation is greatly appreciated :-) | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit CPU Core I3 2100T/Core I5 750/Core I3 2120 Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme4/Gigabyte GA-H55-UD3H/Asrock H61DEL Memory 2x4GB 1600mhz/2x4GB 1600hmhz/2x4GB 1333mhz Graphics Card onboard/onboard/ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5-V2 Sound Card not active/onboard/onboard Monitor(s) Displays Philips 42" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard 2xMS natural Ergonomic Mouse MS Wireless/logitech laser/steelseries Xai PSU Corsair GS700/Antec 500w Earth watts/Corsair TX650 V2 Case Antec Twelve Hundred V3/2xAntec Sonata Elite Cooling generic Hard Drives WD Red WD30EFRX
WD20EARX
WD20EARS
WD20EACS Internet Speed 20/2mbit Other Info 2x IBM serveraid 1015M IT Flashed 8xPort SATA
4x X-case 5in1 drive cages (norco rebranded) |
02 May 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7, 64 bit Home SP1, Win 8 Pro 64 bit Citrus Co, FL |
This doesn't specifically answer your questions but I had a problem with Mailwasher Pro of the program icon (blinks when new messages arrive) would not stay shown in the "notification" area (formerly called the Systray). I could go into customize and select the "show icons and notification" and sometimes when the program was started it would do it and other times it would not. I finally "fixed" the problem by starting Mailwasher Pro in a Vista compatibility mode. Since then it always defaults to the show icons and notification. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number My Own Build OS Windows 7, 64 bit Home SP1, Win 8 Pro 64 bit CPU Intel i7 3770 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Memory 16GB GSkill Ripsaw F3-14900CL9Q-16GBXL Graphics Card Sapphire HD7770 Sound Card RealTek Monitor(s) Displays Viewsonic VA2448 Series 24" LED Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Kensington wired Mouse Logitech Wireless PSU Antec High Current Gamer HCG-620M Modular Case Coolermaster HAF XM Cooling Corsair H80 Liquid cooling with aftermarket Nexus quiet fans Hard Drives 240GB Intel 520 SSD for Win 7
128GB OCZ Vertex 4 SSD for Win 8
1 TB Seagate drive for backup Internet Speed 40 MB/sec (Cable) Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Browser I.E9/Firefox Other Info Sonar X2 Professional 64 bit Recording Software with Roland Octa-Capture and MAudio Fast Track Ultra 8R recording interfaces, Frontier Tranzport wireless control unit, Behringer BCF2000 Control Surface.
Five USB connected optical drives for CD Audio production using Nero 11
Other systems: Desktop with i5 3550 CPU, LenovoZ560 Laptop with Win 7 64 bit HP, SP1, new iPad |
02 May 2010
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#3 | | Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 6.01.7600 SP1 (x64) MILTON KEYNES |

Quote: Originally Posted by Tsunamijhoe Hey Guys.
Can anyone tell me why my icons in systray,specifically Eset Nod32 and Deamon tools icons disappear whenever my computer is switched off at the wall socket?
I switch off all my pc/peripherals at night at the wall socket to save energi, and only 1 pc has this annoying problem. I thought it would be solved with new hardware,as i just upgraded from a core 2 duo 6750/asus mb (which also had the problem) to my current core I5 750/gigabit mb.
The programs themselves seem to load fine even though the systray icons are not there. And if i do a few reboots, everything goes back to normal.
Hardware these days of energy saving shouldn´t have to rely on a constant standby current,isn´t that what the internal battery is for?
Any explanation is greatly appreciated :-) Tutorials - Windows 7 Forums
try this link | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number packard bell IXTREME M5722 OS Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 6.01.7600 SP1 (x64) CPU Processor : Intel Core 2 Quad Q8300 @ 2500 MHz Motherboard Mainboard : Packard Bell (Acer EG43M ) Memory Physical Memory :8GB Corsair4x 2GB 800MHz C5 DDR2 Graphics Card Video Card : XFX 6700 AMD Monitor(s) Displays Maestro 234DL - BenQ V2220 - BenQ VW2420H Screen Resolution Current Display :1920x1080p pixels at 60 Hz in HD LED Keyboard Gigabyte Aivia K8100 Mouse TRUST-Wireless Laser Mouse - Carbon edition MI-7770C PSU XFX ProSeries 550W PSU Case PACKARD BELL IXTREME Cooling System Blower Current: 150mA Air Flow16CFM ;Akasa 90mm rear Hard Drives Hard Disks : WDC (1000 GB)
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SAMSUNG spinpoint HD103SJ 1000.2 GB
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Date : 08/31/2009 |
02 May 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
I had to think about this for a while but it seems to me if windows isn't in hibernate or standby and is completely shut down it shouldn't matter if your PC is plugged in or not as far as those icons are concerned. All the battery does on a desktop PC is maintain your BIOS settings and the date and time. If your PC is in standby and you unplug it you could loose the data stored in memory (RAM), the CMOS battery won't back that up. Are you shutting down windows or putting it into standby?
Also since you have switched hardware and it only does it on this one PC I kind of think its a software problem not a hardware problem. I've seen this type of glitch on my XP machine if I had it set to auto log me on. The program would be running but the icon would be MIA. Usually a reboot would bring them back or switching back to logging on manually. If that didn't work I would re-install the program and it would be OK again. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 |
04 May 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric I had to think about this for a while but it seems to me if windows isn't in hibernate or standby and is completely shut down it shouldn't matter if your PC is plugged in or not as far as those icons are concerned. All the battery does on a desktop PC is maintain your BIOS settings and the date and time. If your PC is in standby and you unplug it you could loose the data stored in memory (RAM), the CMOS battery won't back that up. Are you shutting down windows or putting it into standby?
Also since you have switched hardware and it only does it on this one PC I kind of think its a software problem not a hardware problem. I've seen this type of glitch on my XP machine if I had it set to auto log me on. The program would be running but the icon would be MIA. Usually a reboot would bring them back or switching back to logging on manually. If that didn't work I would re-install the program and it would be OK again. I always shut down pc properly before switching off wallsocket, problem persists. Programs are running, systray icons are simply not "loading" or something, it is kinda annoying.
And yes, a reboot will usually restore icons,as long as power from wallsocket is switched on.
That said, my 2 pc´s do not have identical hardware, one i use strictly for internet,and 1 stricktly for gaming, and 1 has the problem,the ohter doesn´t,and EVERY piece of hardware in this room is connected to the same wall socket 
Quote: Originally Posted by brianzion 
Quote: Originally Posted by Tsunamijhoe Hey Guys.
Can anyone tell me why my icons in systray,specifically Eset Nod32 and Deamon tools icons disappear whenever my computer is switched off at the wall socket?
I switch off all my pc/peripherals at night at the wall socket to save energi, and only 1 pc has this annoying problem. I thought it would be solved with new hardware,as i just upgraded from a core 2 duo 6750/asus mb (which also had the problem) to my current core I5 750/gigabit mb.
The programs themselves seem to load fine even though the systray icons are not there. And if i do a few reboots, everything goes back to normal.
Hardware these days of energy saving shouldn´t have to rely on a constant standby current,isn´t that what the internal battery is for?
Any explanation is greatly appreciated :-) Tutorials - Windows 7 Forums
try this link could u maybe be more specific? I am not an idiot,and have probably been using pc´s since before you were born ;-) 
Quote: Originally Posted by fireberd This doesn't specifically answer your questions but I had a problem with Mailwasher Pro of the program icon (blinks when new messages arrive) would not stay shown in the "notification" area (formerly called the Systray). I could go into customize and select the "show icons and notification" and sometimes when the program was started it would do it and other times it would not. I finally "fixed" the problem by starting Mailwasher Pro in a Vista compatibility mode. Since then it always defaults to the show icons and notification. Hmm, but then why doesn´t the same programs behave same on my other pc? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit CPU Core I3 2100T/Core I5 750/Core I3 2120 Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme4/Gigabyte GA-H55-UD3H/Asrock H61DEL Memory 2x4GB 1600mhz/2x4GB 1600hmhz/2x4GB 1333mhz Graphics Card onboard/onboard/ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5-V2 Sound Card not active/onboard/onboard Monitor(s) Displays Philips 42" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard 2xMS natural Ergonomic Mouse MS Wireless/logitech laser/steelseries Xai PSU Corsair GS700/Antec 500w Earth watts/Corsair TX650 V2 Case Antec Twelve Hundred V3/2xAntec Sonata Elite Cooling generic Hard Drives WD Red WD30EFRX
WD20EARX
WD20EARS
WD20EACS Internet Speed 20/2mbit Other Info 2x IBM serveraid 1015M IT Flashed 8xPort SATA
4x X-case 5in1 drive cages (norco rebranded) |
04 May 2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
You could try this if you like, it will remove all but the default windows 7 icons from the tray. I've done it to get ride of left over icons for programs I have un-installed. Any programs that are currently installed will just put a new icon back in the tray when you run them.
In regedit, delete these values in right frame:IconStreams and PastIconsStream
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\TrayNotify\
Open Task manager & kill explorer.exe (desktop will disappear).
Then do File > new task & type explorer.exe. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 |
05 May 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit |
OK, i tried what you suggested,and it worked,somewhat.. It worked the first couple of daily startups, then it went right back to not loading the usual icons..Then today all icons loaded on startup. I have a sneaking suspicion it might be my Eset blocking the icons. If the programs of the missing icons load before Eset and wants to go online,it will be blocked from doing so i suspect,and thus might not load the icon. Then when Eset has loaded fully,it will let the programs work properly,but not load the icons as it is too "late". Does this make any sense? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit CPU Core I3 2100T/Core I5 750/Core I3 2120 Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme4/Gigabyte GA-H55-UD3H/Asrock H61DEL Memory 2x4GB 1600mhz/2x4GB 1600hmhz/2x4GB 1333mhz Graphics Card onboard/onboard/ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5-V2 Sound Card not active/onboard/onboard Monitor(s) Displays Philips 42" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard 2xMS natural Ergonomic Mouse MS Wireless/logitech laser/steelseries Xai PSU Corsair GS700/Antec 500w Earth watts/Corsair TX650 V2 Case Antec Twelve Hundred V3/2xAntec Sonata Elite Cooling generic Hard Drives WD Red WD30EFRX
WD20EARX
WD20EARS
WD20EACS Internet Speed 20/2mbit Other Info 2x IBM serveraid 1015M IT Flashed 8xPort SATA
4x X-case 5in1 drive cages (norco rebranded) |
05 May 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
As a test you could run msconfig and disable the entry for Eset. Then wait a little while after you get to your desktop to see if the icons load and launch Eset manually from the program icon. There are programs that will change the order that your apps load on boot up and even delay their launch. I've never used one but I'm sure Google can find one if you use the correct search term. Another option would be to switch from Eset to Microsoft Security Essentials as a test. If you go that route un-install Eset first as two ant-virus programs can make for a mess even if you think one is disabled. These are programs that really like to get their hooks into windows. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 |
06 May 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric As a test you could run msconfig and disable the entry for Eset. Then wait a little while after you get to your desktop to see if the icons load and launch Eset manually from the program icon. There are programs that will change the order that your apps load on boot up and even delay their launch. I've never used one but I'm sure Google can find one if you use the correct search term. Another option would be to switch from Eset to Microsoft Security Essentials as a test. If you go that route un-install Eset first as two ant-virus programs can make for a mess even if you think one is disabled. These are programs that really like to get their hooks into windows. Hehe,seems too much a hassle for a few icons :-).. Thanks anyways,but i won´t fiddle with this anymore. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit CPU Core I3 2100T/Core I5 750/Core I3 2120 Motherboard ASRock Z77 Extreme4/Gigabyte GA-H55-UD3H/Asrock H61DEL Memory 2x4GB 1600mhz/2x4GB 1600hmhz/2x4GB 1333mhz Graphics Card onboard/onboard/ASUS HD7850-DC2-2GD5-V2 Sound Card not active/onboard/onboard Monitor(s) Displays Philips 42" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard 2xMS natural Ergonomic Mouse MS Wireless/logitech laser/steelseries Xai PSU Corsair GS700/Antec 500w Earth watts/Corsair TX650 V2 Case Antec Twelve Hundred V3/2xAntec Sonata Elite Cooling generic Hard Drives WD Red WD30EFRX
WD20EARX
WD20EARS
WD20EACS Internet Speed 20/2mbit Other Info 2x IBM serveraid 1015M IT Flashed 8xPort SATA
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