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Windows 7: This is what I like


02 May 2010   #1
whs
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This is what I like



All my memory is being used - and be it only for caching. And zero page faults. Could not be better.

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02 May 2010   #2

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

On one hand, I understand your perspective....unused memory is wasted memory, but having free memory also increases performance...except in terms of programs that might already be cached. Still, I feel comfortable having a certain amount of free space available:


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02 May 2010   #3

Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
...but having free memory also increases performance....
RAM used as cache is free memory. There is zero overhead over writing cached memory. Available tells you how much memory is available to programs. Available memory is the combined total of standby memory and free memory
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02 May 2010   #4
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
...but having free memory also increases performance....
RAM used as cache is free memory. There is zero overhead over writing cached memory. Available tells you how much memory is available to programs. Available memory is the combined total of standby memory and free memory
Exactly. The more you have in memory, the faster it goes. The free memory (light blue) is just a waste. And the cached part (dark blue) is the same as free in case more is needed for programs.
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02 May 2010   #5

W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE
 
 

Perhaps both of you are correct, but I'm curious how you would respond to this statement:

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Even with the latest hardware, the processing of digital pictures, videos, or computer games can often lead to longer answering times or "frozen" programs. In fact, it’s often not the lack of main memory capacity that’s at fault, but the file cache management of your Windows operating system. O&O CleverCache makes sure that the file cache is reset while the computer’s running: something that otherwise usually requires a restart of the computer. O&O CleverCache will let you continuously maintain maximum levels of performance on your computer!
O&O Software - O&O CleverCache Professional File Cache Management

This seems to imply that the performance factor doesn't have to do with the RAM itself, but with the way that Windows deals with it. Is this entirely wrong? Is it merely a sales pitch?
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02 May 2010   #6
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Perhaps both of you are correct, but I'm curious how you would respond to this statement:

Quote:
Even with the latest hardware, the processing of digital pictures, videos, or computer games can often lead to longer answering times or "frozen" programs. In fact, itís often not the lack of main memory capacity thatís at fault, but the file cache management of your Windows operating system. O&O CleverCache makes sure that the file cache is reset while the computerís running: something that otherwise usually requires a restart of the computer. O&O CleverCache will let you continuously maintain maximum levels of performance on your computer!
O&O Software - O&O CleverCache Professional File Cache Management

This seems to imply that the performance factor doesn't have to do with the RAM itself, but with the way that Windows deals with it. Is this entirely wrong? Is it merely a sales pitch?
In all due respect, that is a lot of baloney. Never mess with the OS - see my logo on the bottom, LOL.
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02 May 2010   #7

Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seekermeister View Post
Perhaps both of you are correct, but I'm curious how you would respond to this statement:.....Is it merely a sales pitch?
Yes. (See bold text) Reseting the file cache does nothing, once the file is written to disk. Nor is the cache held on indefinably. Pulling information off of a product page that is designed to sell a product is not trustworthy information. You should not use that to build your argument.
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02 May 2010   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate (64)
 
 

Is hardware reserved the swap file?


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02 May 2010   #9
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by win7clutz View Post
Is hardware reserved the swap file?
No, not at all. That is usually reserved for the BIOS. But could also be for e.g. an on-board graphics. The "swap file" (I assume you mean the paging file) is a lot bigger (size of your RAM or more) and figures as part of the OS. Run WinDirStat, then you will see it as the biggest single colored area.
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02 May 2010   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate (64)
 
 

OK thanks, it just seems like 9MB is an awful lot to reserve for the bios and the board doesn't have on-board graphics...
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