Windows 7 Forums

Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Win7 vs. WinXP - "Date Created" Attribute

14 May 2010   #1
Nick2

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 
Win7 vs. WinXP - "Date Created" Attribute

I have this issue that it's quite important for me.
In Windows 7 my downloaded files get different timestamps than in WinXP.

For example, let's assume that on 1.1.1970 I add a a file to eMule's download queue. eMule creates a temporary .part file, stored in "Temp" folder.
Let's assume again that the file has been completely downloaded on 2.2.2010.
The downloaded file will be saved in "Incoming" folder.

In WinXP, the downloaded file would have "2.2.2010" in the Date Created field, but in Win7, it would have "1.1.1970".

This would seriously mess up my files, especialy that I have thousands of sorted pictures.

Is there anything I can do about it?


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

14 May 2010   #2
WindowsStar

Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
 
 

All the information is there it is just being displayed differently. Windows XP displays the date the file was last accessed, and Windows 7 displays the date the file was created. You can adjust what you would like Window 7 to display and get the same results. Change Windows 7 to display last accessed.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
14 May 2010   #3
Nick2

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

No, same "Created" field, is "stamped" differently. As I said, XP puts the stamp of the completed file creation date, Win7 puts the stamp of the temp file creation date.

This issue is very serious, since it's not just an interpretation. I did a summary check in a VM, and it seems that, XP also shows the stamp that Win7 put, instead of the correct stamp.


Attached Images
Win7 vs. WinXP - "Date Created" Attribute-capture.jpg 
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.


14 May 2010   #4
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

This is due to the differences in how the MFT tracks things in Win 7 vs XP. I think your best bet will be to find a different metadata value that maps on both systems.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
14 May 2010   #5
Nick2

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

I need to make Win7 behave like XP, otherwise i'll return to XP.
What do you mean by metadata value?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
14 May 2010   #6
WindowsStar

Windows 7 Enterprise (x64); Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64)
 
 

@Nick2

You missed completely what I was saying. You need to change how you display the information, which is the issue, Windows 7 does it differently. I had the same problem as you in the beginning with Windows 7.



Attached Images
Win7 vs. WinXP - "Date Created" Attribute-displaydate.jpg 
My System SpecsSystem Spec
14 May 2010   #7
Antans

Windows 6.1
 
 

Hey Nick2, do the "Temp" and "Incomming" folders reside on the same disk partition for both Win7 and winXP?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
14 May 2010   #8
Mystere

Windows 7 64 bit SP1
 
 

I don't believe there is any real difference between the OS's in this regard. More than likely, the diffrence is either in your setup, or in which versions of the app you're using.

If you're using a newer version eMule, it may be doing something different with the file creation. Or, perhaps you're setup is different with your temporary files on a different partition than your "complete" folder in xp. This would require eMule to create a new file on the "complete" folder (deleting the old temp file) when the download was finished, while when on the same partition it may simply rename the temporary file to a new location, keeping it's original creation date.

The fact is, both XP and 7 treat this the same way. When the file is created, is it's creation date. period.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
14 May 2010   #9
FliGi7

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
If you're using a newer version eMule, it may be doing something different with the file creation. Or, perhaps you're setup is different with your temporary files on a different partition than your "complete" folder in xp. This would require eMule to create a new file on the "complete" folder (deleting the old temp file) when the download was finished, while when on the same partition it may simply rename the temporary file to a new location, keeping it's original creation date.
This sounds like a more likely scenario.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mystere View Post
The fact is, both XP and 7 treat this the same way. When the file is created, is it's creation date. period.
This is not always true, actually. However, the explanation goes into a scope well beyond what is useful in this thread to stay on topic.

Here is a short slide to give a little insight as to what type of file modifications in Windows 7 do what:

http://blogs.sans.org/computer-foren...ntry-Times.pdf
My System SpecsSystem Spec
16 May 2010   #10
Nick2

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Antans View Post
Hey Nick2, do the "Temp" and "Incomming" folders reside on the same disk partition for both Win7 and winXP?
Yes, they do.


I think I've made a mistake.
WinXP seems to act the same as Win7. If possible, please doublecheck, for my peace of mind.

Do you guys, know anything about Win7's Disk Defrag that altered timestamps?
I can't find this anymore, and I don't know whether this was an issue in win7 RC versions or in the RTM version.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Win7 vs. WinXP - "Date Created" Attribute




Thread Tools





Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
Restoring "Date Created" timestamp after accidentally changing it.
Hey 7-Forums! I have my music library, a 20GB folder on my hard-drive, containing a few thousand mp3s. I use iTunes to play them, and I've always sorted them (inside iTunes) using the "Date Modified" property. As a result of this sorting order, say, if I found out an old song had the wrong...
General Discussion
Making files in subfolders sort by "Date" or "Date Taken" by default?
(Running Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1) I'm a professional photographer and have recently begun shooting with two cameras simultaneously at events. They use different file names to avoid duplicate names/confusion, i.e. IMG_175000 and XMG_175000. Often times I'll take a photo with one camera and...
General Discussion
"Date Created" doesn't change after Copy/Paste
I've found a strange situation where the directory field "Date Created" does not change after a copy/paste using Windows Explorer. Here's the scenario: 1) Image files are written to a folder on the hard drive from an SD card. 2) "Date Modified" shows the time/date the photo was taken, as...
General Discussion
How to add "Date File Created"
I want to add a "Date File Created" to all the files on my computer like I did on XP, but can't find where to change the settings. Can anybody help with this. :confused:
Customization
Q: "Date created" Search filter?
In Explorer, is there any way to do a search for files CREATED on a specific date or within a range of dates? I've found the search filter using "Date modified" but not "Data created". The old XP "Search companion" did it, but that's no longer available in Windows 7, as far as I know.
General Discussion
Win7 "workstation" to WinXP "server" file copy FAIL
This is driving me bonkers and I have almost no hair left. I really hope someone can help. When I attempt to copy or move a file or folder from my Win7 box to my WinXP (SP3) media server, the operation nearly always fails. Take, for example, my trying to copy the VLC Media Player folder (704...
Network & Sharing

Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 20:44.

Twitter Facebook Google+



Windows 7 Forums

Seven Forums Android App Seven Forums IOS App