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Windows 7: Is there a workaround to use all 4GB of RAM?

15 Jun 2010   #1
bilzmale

Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 
Is there a workaround to use all 4GB of RAM?

Thought I'd read somewhere that thwere is a tweak to let Win Home Prem 32 bit access all of the installed RAM? Or was I dreaming?


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15 Jun 2010   #2
squall leonhart

Windows 7
 
 

the 3GB boot option allows applications to address more ram, but limits the IO to 1GB.

it does not however, expose any more ram to the system. Windows will see anywhere between 3.0 and 3.75GB's of ram depending on the hardware in the system, as each device requires physical memory due to the 2GB addressing limit under a 32bit OS.
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15 Jun 2010   #3
skyli

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Mine sees 3764 Mb with 64 bit..
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15 Jun 2010   #4
Tews

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Thats because you have a 64bit OS....
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15 Jun 2010   #5
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

bilzmale, instead of trying to get things working like that on 32 bit using PAE do yourself a favor and just go 64 bit.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by skyli View Post
Mine sees 3764 Mb with 64 bit..
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tews View Post
Thats because you have a 64bit OS....
And with the missing ~332 MB (odd number) probably allocated to the video chip integrated into the CPU.
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15 Jun 2010   #6
bilzmale

Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

OK if I add a video card with say 1GB memory will that allow the rest of the system to access more of the 3GB it sees (hopefully giving some speed advantages in progs like Photoshop and Lightroom).
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15 Jun 2010   #7
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

No. 32 bit OS with 4 GB of ram and a video card with 1 GB of vram on it, will maker it that at best the OS will see and be able to use 3 GB.
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15 Jun 2010   #8
squall leonhart

Windows 7
 
 

^correct, in order to map the additional memory on the video card, the system will lose more system memory.
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15 Jun 2010   #9
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote:
Or was I dreaming?
Yes you are dreaming. The 32bit system can only address 4GB (to be exact it is 4GB minus 1 byte) of address space and any device/function of the system that requires address space has to be mapped into these 4GB. Some of it is explained in this article, but if in addition you have a graphics card with address space requirements, that goes against the 4GB too. In a bad case you can end up with only something between 2 and 3GBs that remain for the OS.
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15 Jun 2010   #10
bilzmale

Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
No. 32 bit OS with 4 GB of ram and a video card with 1 GB of vram on it, will maker it that at best the OS will see and be able to use 3 GB.
OK I didn't make myself clear - I was comparing onboard graphics sharing system RAM with a dedicated video card.

Have done some searching and found a few things - I'd be interested in comments.

Memory Reamp in BIOS
. I suspect this is a typo and should read "remap".

Patch kernel. A Russian hack.

Create a RAMDisk. A software solution.
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