| Windows 7: Fresh Install of 7 - blinking HDD every few seconds |
12 Jul 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + Linux Mint 9 Australia |
Fresh Install of 7 - blinking HDD every few seconds Hi all,
I recently (about 3 days ago) did a fresh install of 7 on my Dell Latitude E6410. All drivers are up to date, and this problem does not occur when I boot to my Linux partition. When I'm in 7, my hard disk sits there blinking constantly, whether the machine is idle or not. It's a bit annoying. I've tried turning of the paging file, system restore, superfetching and search indexing, but it still doesn't seem to make any difference. I initially thought it was my AV software (freeware version of Avira), so I uninstalled that just to see if it made any difference, which it doesn't either. Task manager seems to report csrss.exe is making all the I/O reads. Is there anyway I can stop this, it's very annoying. The only other thing I can think of which this could be is Prefetching - but does it usually take this long for it sort itself out?
Thanks.
Post script edit - Another tidbit of info, the drive is definitely *not* doing load-unload cycles. That's the first thing I checked since my previous laptop had this problem and that's certainly not it. I even forced the power settings on the drive using QuietHDD (since this corrected the problem on my previous laptop) just to be sure and it makes no difference. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Latitude E6410 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + Linux Mint 9 CPU Intel Core i5 520M Memory 8gb DDR3 Graphics Card nVidia NVS 3100M Monitor(s) Displays 14.1" WLEC LCD + 22" Dell LCD Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 + 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Dell Multimedia keyboard (external) when docked Mouse Logitech TrackMan Wheel PSU Dell power brick, lol. Hard Drives 1 x 500gb 7200RPM (Internal)
Various external drives (about 2.5tb in total) |
12 Jul 2010
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#2 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
How was Windows 7 activated?
Did you reinstall with just the OS DVD, or Recovery?
If you clean reinstalled did you keep the Dell Utility partition?
Has the problem been there since the reinstall or did it possibly begin after your changed out a driver given by the installer or optional Windows Updates?
Run a virus scan with Malwarebytes and MSE, which is a better free AV solution than Avira.
Google repeat errors in Event Viewer>Admin VIew and Performance Diagnostics log at Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Performance Information and Tools\Advanced Tools where you can also Generate a System Health Report.
Try a clean boot procedure: How to Troubleshoot a Problem by Performing a Clean Startup in Windows 7 or Vista
Uncheck all items at msconfig>Startup except AV and gadgets.
Run chkdsk and maker's HD diag/repair full CD scan: Hard Drive Diagnostics Tools and Utilities (Storage) - TACKtech Corp.
Run sfc /scannow to make sure nothing has already corrupted System Files.
Finally, if nothing else helps then run a Repair Install which is next best thing to reinstall.
Last edited by Brink; 05 Aug 2011 at 03:58 AM..
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12 Jul 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + Linux Mint 9 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker How was Windows 7 activated?
Did you reinstall with just the OS DVD, or Recovery?
If you clean reinstalled did you keep the Dell Utility partition? Was already activated when I installed it from the Dell supplied OS DVD (not a recovery disc either). I nuked the Dell utility partition because I could create my Linux partition with it still on there. The machine is brand new btw. Quote: Has the problem been there since the reinstall or did it possibly begin after your changed out a driver given by the installer or optional Windows Updates? Since the reinstall I've noticed it. Quote: Run a virus scan with Malwarebytes and MSE, which is a better free AV solution than Avira. It's clean as a whistle. Couldn't find any errors at all that seem related (one of my USB external disks gives controller errors, but I'm not sure that's related), so I opened up Perfmon to see what it's actually doing. I also reinstalled some Intel drivers, and it seems to have made it slightly better. The activity isn't just slight pulses any more, it's basically constant now. Windows seems to be indexing constantly now, whereas it was just trying to do it intermittently before. I wonder whether that had something to do with the driver reinstall or just coincidence.
I personally can't see anything out of the ordinary going on.....
Last edited by Brink; 05 Aug 2011 at 03:58 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Latitude E6410 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + Linux Mint 9 CPU Intel Core i5 520M Memory 8gb DDR3 Graphics Card nVidia NVS 3100M Monitor(s) Displays 14.1" WLEC LCD + 22" Dell LCD Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 + 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Dell Multimedia keyboard (external) when docked Mouse Logitech TrackMan Wheel PSU Dell power brick, lol. Hard Drives 1 x 500gb 7200RPM (Internal)
Various external drives (about 2.5tb in total) |
12 Jul 2010
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#4 | | Win 7 Ultimate x64 Etobicoke, Ontario |
How large is your documents folder? Most of those reads/writes showing in that screen shot have to do with the Windows Search and Indexing, and depending on the size of the folders included in the index can take a few days on a clean install to complete. Once the index is finished the hard drive activity will fall off.
Don't forget that most of that sort of process is a background task and will be paused if something else requires the resources. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Win 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Phenom II x4 955 @ 4 GHz. Motherboard Asus M5A97 EVO Memory 2x2 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 6850 Sound Card Xonar DGX w/ Logitech X-530 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S232HL Abid Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech G5 v2 PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Green Case Antec Three Hundred Cooling Cooler Master 212 EVO Hard Drives 120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12 Internet Speed 24000/1000 |
12 Jul 2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + Linux Mint 9 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 How large is your documents folder? Most of those reads/writes showing in that screen shot have to do with the Windows Search and Indexing, and depending on the size of the folders included in the index can take a few days on a clean install to complete. Once the index is finished the hard drive activity will fall off.
Don't forget that most of that sort of process is a background task and will be paused if something else requires the resources. I've got just over 143gb of stuff on my Data partition + 2.5TB of external storage. Everything seems to have settled off again now, and it's still flashing occasionally but I think that's just because I'm doing the initial update on MSE. It's certainly better than it was, csrss.exe isn't chewing on it constantly now. This is certainly not something I've seen before. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Latitude E6410 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + Linux Mint 9 CPU Intel Core i5 520M Memory 8gb DDR3 Graphics Card nVidia NVS 3100M Monitor(s) Displays 14.1" WLEC LCD + 22" Dell LCD Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 + 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Dell Multimedia keyboard (external) when docked Mouse Logitech TrackMan Wheel PSU Dell power brick, lol. Hard Drives 1 x 500gb 7200RPM (Internal)
Various external drives (about 2.5tb in total) |
12 Jul 2010
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#6 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Go to the "Reliability and Performance Monitor > Disk (Start > right click on "Computer" > Manage > R&P Monitor) and check who is doing all the reads or writes.
See also: Resource Monitor
Last edited by Brink; 12 Jul 2010 at 08:11 AM..
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| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
12 Jul 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + Linux Mint 9 Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by whs Go to the "Reliability and Performance Monitor > Disk (Start > right click on "Computer" > Manage > R&P Monitor) and check who is doing all the reads or writes. Isn't that what I've got here? I can't seem to find it the way you listed it. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Zaraphrax 
Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker How was Windows 7 activated?
Did you reinstall with just the OS DVD, or Recovery?
If you clean reinstalled did you keep the Dell Utility partition? Was already activated when I installed it from the Dell supplied OS DVD (not a recovery disc either). I nuked the Dell utility partition because I could create my Linux partition with it still on there. The machine is brand new btw. Quote: Has the problem been there since the reinstall or did it possibly begin after your changed out a driver given by the installer or optional Windows Updates? Since the reinstall I've noticed it. Quote: Run a virus scan with Malwarebytes and MSE, which is a better free AV solution than Avira. It's clean as a whistle. Couldn't find any errors at all that seem related (one of my USB external disks gives controller errors, but I'm not sure that's related), so I opened up Perfmon to see what it's actually doing. I also reinstalled some Intel drivers, and it seems to have made it slightly better. The activity isn't just slight pulses any more, it's basically constant now. Windows seems to be indexing constantly now, whereas it was just trying to do it intermittently before. I wonder whether that had something to do with the driver reinstall or just coincidence.
I personally can't see anything out of the ordinary going on.....
Last edited by Brink; 05 Aug 2011 at 03:58 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Latitude E6410 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + Linux Mint 9 CPU Intel Core i5 520M Memory 8gb DDR3 Graphics Card nVidia NVS 3100M Monitor(s) Displays 14.1" WLEC LCD + 22" Dell LCD Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 + 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Dell Multimedia keyboard (external) when docked Mouse Logitech TrackMan Wheel PSU Dell power brick, lol. Hard Drives 1 x 500gb 7200RPM (Internal)
Various external drives (about 2.5tb in total) |
12 Jul 2010
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#8 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
There is a lot of system log activity. For a test, disable the System Event Notification Service and see whether that helps. But reenable it later because there are some services that depend on it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
12 Jul 2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + Linux Mint 9 Australia |
Nope, that didn't do anything. Although it's less busy now, the drive light still pulses constantly even at the desktop with nothing running except MSE in the tray.
Here's a screenshot with that service stopped, and only Firefox, Task Manager and Resource Monitor running. I'm starting to wonder if I borked something when I resized the partition to install Linux (I defragmented first though, and it let me shrink it down so there can't have been anything in it's road, right?).
EDIT - sfc didn't find any errors, so perhaps not. Hmm.
EDIT2 - Neither did chkdsk.
Last edited by Zaraphrax; 12 Jul 2010 at 07:54 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Latitude E6410 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + Linux Mint 9 CPU Intel Core i5 520M Memory 8gb DDR3 Graphics Card nVidia NVS 3100M Monitor(s) Displays 14.1" WLEC LCD + 22" Dell LCD Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 + 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Dell Multimedia keyboard (external) when docked Mouse Logitech TrackMan Wheel PSU Dell power brick, lol. Hard Drives 1 x 500gb 7200RPM (Internal)
Various external drives (about 2.5tb in total) |
12 Jul 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + Linux Mint 9 Australia |
Ooh, I think I've solved it.
I did a bit more Googling and came across this thread (and being a computer engineer, I don't know why I didn't think of this). It says in a post in there that it's more of "I/O" light, rather than just purely disc activity. It talks about it polling the DVD drive to see if a new disc has been inserted. So, I clicked Safely Remove Hardware and "ejected" my laptop's DVD burner. Now the light pulses at a much, much less frequent rate. It was pulsing at a rate of about 1-2 pulses per 2 seconds before, I've just timed in and it's pulsing at about 1 pulse every 5 or 6 seconds, which is more what I was expecting under general use conditions. I guess I didn't notice it because the seeking on this hard disk is very quiet, even in my nice quiet room.
I wonder if it's a bug in Dell's latest BIOS or something (this is a brand spanking new model, so I guess that's possible).
Brb, rebooting to "re-attach" the drive.
EDIT - And sure enough, light goes berserk again. Ejected the drive again and it stops. That's incredibly weird. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Latitude E6410 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + Linux Mint 9 CPU Intel Core i5 520M Memory 8gb DDR3 Graphics Card nVidia NVS 3100M Monitor(s) Displays 14.1" WLEC LCD + 22" Dell LCD Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 + 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Dell Multimedia keyboard (external) when docked Mouse Logitech TrackMan Wheel PSU Dell power brick, lol. Hard Drives 1 x 500gb 7200RPM (Internal)
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