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Windows 7 - So is it just one big upgrade? |
12-17-2008
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit |
So is it just one big upgrade? I've been following the process of Windows 7 and even thought there has been some great changes many people are claiming or starting to believe it's more of an "upgrade" to Vista, what Vista should have been. But is this true? Minus the toolbar, it looks incredibly like Vista, just with that more blue image instead of the Vista streaks. I thought we'd see some window decoration changes but it really is the same. Do you think Microsoft are just trying to cover themselves for the dissapointment that Vista was (more like what people thought, as it does rock)? I hope not. Even though we're coming to the final builds, I'd still like to see some more graphical changes, something that moves it further away from Vista, don't you?
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Quad 3.00GHz Motherboard ASUSTeK P5Q SE2 Memory 4.00GB DDR2 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4670 Monitor(s) Displays 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Hard Drives 500GB internal
1TB external
1TB external
320GB external |
12-17-2008
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Hi Jack,
I'm sure there is more done under the hood for the code that is different than Vista, but so far Windows 7 is looking like just a upgraded version of Vista with a few features tossed in for good measure. However, it is still just a beta and who knows what features may be unlocked, changed, or added later. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self built custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel i7-980X 3.3 Ghz (3.48 Ghz OC'd) Motherboard ASUS P6X58D Premium Memory 12 GB (2GBx6) DDR3 PC3-16000 2000 MHz Kingston HyperX Graphics Card Sapphire HD5870 Eyefinity 6 2GB Sound Card Realtek HD Audio ALC889 Integrated Chip Monitor(s) Displays 3x 27" Asus VE278Q Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500 Revolution Mouse Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500 Revolution PSU OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W Case Corsair Obsidian 800D Cooling Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme Copper CPU heat sink w/120 MM Hard Drives 160GB OCZ RevoDrive X2
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** Lite-On iHBS212 12x BD Writer
** Samsung CLX-3175FW Printer
** Netgear WNDR3800 Router
** Motorola SBG6580 Cable Modem
** 2x APC Back-UPS XS 1500 |
12-17-2008
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate Vista Ultimate x64 |
I think that they are trying to keep some of Vista's Good looks because that was never a problem with Vista, it was something that every one enjoyed and it has also been emulated for XP. I agree that it needs to be different but looks are not going to be the answer to a successful Operating System the most important IMO will be usability, speed, compatibility, flexibility, stability, and longevity. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew OS Windows 7 Ultimate Vista Ultimate x64 CPU Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16Ghz @ 3.8Ghz Motherboard eVGA 750i FTW Memory 2x2Gigs Patriot PC2-6400 LL Graphics Card Inno3D GeForce GTX260 216 SP Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VW222U 22" 2ms Response time Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard Mouse Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse PSU HYTEC 600W & Thermaltake 650W Toughpower Power Exp Case Thermaltake Armor LCS (Liquid Cooling System) Cooling Liquid Cooling System Hard Drives SATA 150GB
SATA II 250GB
USB IDE 750GB Ext. |
12-17-2008
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#4 | | Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. |
I have high hopes for 7 and have no wish to put it down, before release, as was done with Vista.
However, I am one of the "what Vista should have been" society.
Unfortunately, I obviously have some subtle difefrences on my computers, so cannot comment on the incredible startup speeds that are being achieved. The "new features could esaily be incorporated into Vista, what few there are so far.
Par for par, identical computers with the same software installed, I have no big differences in performance.
Nothing could be more stable than my Vista installation. I have had no bsod's since RC2, except for bungling experiments of my own making. So I am obliged to discount that as an improvement.
I am not a network game player, so cannot vouch for some of the + and- claims in that area.
"Under the hood" . If you look back at earlier OS pre releases,since win95, you will find that is an oft quoted comment which pops up, even on the Microsoft pages. Yes or No- it cannot be disputed except on observation, or if you should have access to the code.
On thing that stands out is , if you have a quick browse through the files, paarticuarly in operational folders such as system32, and comapre it alongside Vista, there do not seem to be any great changes in size.
Lightheartedly, I mean that, in my more neurotic moments, I am thinking that the computer public are being subjected to the biggest con that MS have ever perpetrated and what we are about to get is Vista SP3 rebadged as Windows 7.
As I said at the start, I am optimistic though.
Last edited by davehc; 12-17-2008 at 09:17 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Three desktops and one laptop with good specs.. OS Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. |
12-17-2008
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#5 | | |
RE: So is it just one big upgrade? I have had a chance to play with Windows 7 a little. I have to say that it is much more then an upgrade.
Personally, I love the new taskbar. It makes working with several documents a lot easier. I also find the UAC is much improved and will be liked a lot better by the normal users. Networking home computers has had a major change. It is now a lot easier.
Also look at the caculator. It has pretty much been the same since it was added to the Windows environment. It has finally been fine tuned with some additional useful features added.
Granted, it was prebeta that I used, so I am sure that their will be some more changes. I am very much looking forward to the first public beta, the RC and the final release. | My System Specs | | |
12-17-2008
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#6 | | Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. |
I'm still not getting it. I must be a real low pessimist!
UAC? Well I don't use it.
"It makes working with several documents a lot easier" How is that?
After installing 7, and putting in my encyption and workgroup name, as requested, my installation sets up the network for me, on Vista or 7. I cannot think of an improvement on that. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Three desktops and one laptop with good specs.. OS Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. |
12-17-2008
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Quote: Originally Posted by davehc I'm still not getting it. I must be a real low pessimist!
UAC? Well I don't use it.
"It makes working with several documents a lot easier" How is that?
After installing 7, and putting in my encyption and workgroup name, as requested, my installation sets up the network for me, on Vista or 7. I cannot think of an improvement on that. For users at home and users that are novice when it comes to computers, they leave the UAC on. It has been fine tuned and should not pop up as much. Not everyone is computer smart.
As far as networking, I was refering to home networking. It will be easier for users that want to connect their in home computers together. Granted, networking isn't that hard for people with experiance, but I think it is a good advancement for people who may not know enough to connect home computers together. | My System Specs | | |
12-17-2008
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate Vista Ultimate x64 |
Sorry Dave I apologize, I do not wish you to go I only request that you give this OS a fair go before publicizing your opinions and you are always welcome to post your thoughts and suggestions and I know you can also be very helpful so again don't feel that you are not welcome and I am sure by some you are also well liked.
I would PM you but you don't seem to have it enabled. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Brew OS Windows 7 Ultimate Vista Ultimate x64 CPU Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16Ghz @ 3.8Ghz Motherboard eVGA 750i FTW Memory 2x2Gigs Patriot PC2-6400 LL Graphics Card Inno3D GeForce GTX260 216 SP Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VW222U 22" 2ms Response time Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Gaming Keyboard Mouse Logitech G9 Gaming Mouse PSU HYTEC 600W & Thermaltake 650W Toughpower Power Exp Case Thermaltake Armor LCS (Liquid Cooling System) Cooling Liquid Cooling System Hard Drives SATA 150GB
SATA II 250GB
USB IDE 750GB Ext. |
12-17-2008
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#9 | | Windows 7 Build 7100 32-bit, Windows Vista 32-bit |
I have to agree with dave to some degree. Even though I like the new stuff in 7, I won't buy it. It doesn't have enough new stuff to be worth the price. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Vostro 1510 OS Windows 7 Build 7100 32-bit, Windows Vista 32-bit CPU Intel Core Duo T8100 2,1GHz Memory 3GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS Screen Resolution 1440x900 Hard Drives 250GB |
12-17-2008
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#10 | | Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. |
I,m sorry, Mr Grim (God - what a pseudo!) that you had to go public. I wasn't aware that my PM was not enabled, I'll have a look at my profile and fix it up.
Anyway. I am terribly interested in the development of 7 and would hate to lose this informative site. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Three desktops and one laptop with good specs.. OS Vista and now 7 in 32 and 64 bit. So is it just one big upgrade? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:44 AM. |  |