| Windows 7: Worth upgrading older 9600GT to newer GTS 450??? |
10 Nov 2010
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 78 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 I'm not an avid PC gamer...but I'm still kicking around with my 9800GTX+ and it's been just fine for the games I have thrown at it. However, a hardcore gamer...would most likely not be satisfied. The 8800, 9800, GTS 250, GTS 450 are basically the same card with some new features added to each generation. The 8800 was a top level card when introduced and cost around $600, the subsequent models are considered mainstream cards in the sub $150 price range. These are my personal favorite nVidia cards of all time and two of any model in SLI will give nVidias' top dog, the GTX 480, a run for the money. | My System Specs |
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10 Nov 2010
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| | Windows 7 64Bit Ultimate Edition SP1 626 posts NoNe Of YoUr BiZ :) |
Go for it, it will blow your card out of the water, especially if you want to stay loyal to Nvidia and have the DX11 Experience, if not then your shall do fine.
I have the GTX 460 and it rules. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Customised OS Windows 7 64Bit Ultimate Edition SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II X5 955 @ 3200 Mhz Motherboard Asus M5A99X EVO Memory G.Skill 12GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card Palit GeForce GTX 550 Ti OC Sonic 1GB Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays LG 32" HDTV Screen Resolution 1920x1080 @ 60Hz Keyboard ADVENT Illuminated Keyboard Mouse Genius PSU Colors-IT 750w BLACK 12CM Silent Case Xigamatek CPC-T45UB-U01 Asgard Chassis Cooling 4 120mm Fans In Total Hard Drives Internal 250GB SATA 3.0 Western Digital WDC WD25 00AAKX-001CA0
Internal 500GB SATA 2.0 Seagate ST350041 3AS
Internal 500GB SATA 2.0 Western Digital WDC WD50 00AAKS-00WWP
External 1TB USB 2.0 Western Digital
External 2TB USB 2.0 Buffalo Internet Speed 30MB Other Info CPU Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Cooler |
16 Nov 2010
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| | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit 486 posts Australia all over |
And if you don't want to be loyal you could also consider a 6 series seeing the price difference isn't that much..I went from a 9800gtx to a 5850 but the 6 series were'nt around then....or
You could wait for a little while and see what NV do with the 5 series..the 580 is an improvement on the 480..cooler uses less power is a better card period...you can bet NV will release a 560 etc etc and the price will need to drop markedly or ppl will buy a 6 series ati that runs just as well or better than the 580 for less than half the asking price of a 580 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number home built OS Windows 7 Professional 64 bit CPU 930 i7 quad O/C 4ghz Motherboard Asus P6X58D premium Memory G Skill 3x2gb O/C to 1603mhz 1T timing Graphics Card EVGA 570 Sound Card creative titanium Monitor(s) Displays samsung s23a950d..120hz 3D Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Razor arcosa Mouse Razer Diamondback PSU Antec Quattro 1000 watt Case Xigmatek Elysium Cooling Custom Loop..Kryos block.360rad..BP comp fittings etc Hard Drives Western Digital 3X150 Velocoraptors in Raid 5 Internet Speed Wireless so w/e I get at the time |
16 Nov 2010
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit 96 posts |
thanks for the advice... currently just waiting to see what graphic cards will be offered as black friday dealz online... I really don't know about ATI though, because in the past my first wannabe gaming rig (lol) was built by an ebay seller and had sli but only one 7900GT so I bought another 7900GT and ran with that for a good while but upon getting an HP computer I only had the option of single card solution so I bought ATI but I couldn't get any of the drivers to work with every program I ran and eventually returned it to ATI to see if it had problems, and they reported that it did and issued me another card that was even a slight upgrade to the previous but still I had issues with drivers and certain programs I ran.... finally I gave up on ATI and got the 9600 factory overclocked GT through newegg because I had read that it should be about the same strength as 2 7900GT's running in SLI... ever since then I haven't trusted ATI products and I have never had issues with Nvidia... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personal Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU AMD 450 Rana 3.2 Ghz (Unlocked into a Phenom II X4 B50 3.2) Motherboard Biostar A770E3 Memory PNY 6GB @ 667 Mhz (2X2GB In Dimm 1-2, 2X1GB In Dimm 3-4) Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD5830 Sound Card RocketFish 5.1 PCI Sound Card Monitor(s) Displays 22 inch Lenovo L215 LCD/ SCEPTRE 37 inch LCD-HD (Movies) Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU Cooler Master GX 650 Case NZXT Lexa S, Crafted Gaming Armour Series Cooling 2X140 exhaust on top, 1X120 exhaust the back, 2X120 intake Hard Drives 2X Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200RPM Internet Speed DSL 3 Mbps |
16 Nov 2010
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit 96 posts |
As a side note: I am no longer using the HP I have listed as my system in my profile, I have recently built something of a budget gaming PC but I'm still using the 9600GT from the previous system for now
current system specs:
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit
Case: NZXT Lexa S
PSU: Cooler Master GX 650
Mobo: Biostar A770E
Optical drive: LiteOn (iHAS424-98)
CPU: AMD Athlon 450 Rana 3.2 Ghz (Unlocked into a Phenom II X4 B50 3.2 Ghz)
CPU Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212 (Push pull with 2X120MM fans)
Ram: PNY 6 Ghz @ 667 Mhz (mixed it up for duel channel with matched sticks but 2 gig chips in first two dimms and 1 gig sticks in second two dimms)
Hard drives:2X Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200RPM
Graphics: 9600GT (To be upgraded to GTX 460)
Case cooling: 2X140 exhaust fans on top, 1X120 exhaust in the back, 2X120 intake fans | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personal Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU AMD 450 Rana 3.2 Ghz (Unlocked into a Phenom II X4 B50 3.2) Motherboard Biostar A770E3 Memory PNY 6GB @ 667 Mhz (2X2GB In Dimm 1-2, 2X1GB In Dimm 3-4) Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD5830 Sound Card RocketFish 5.1 PCI Sound Card Monitor(s) Displays 22 inch Lenovo L215 LCD/ SCEPTRE 37 inch LCD-HD (Movies) Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU Cooler Master GX 650 Case NZXT Lexa S, Crafted Gaming Armour Series Cooling 2X140 exhaust on top, 1X120 exhaust the back, 2X120 intake Hard Drives 2X Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200RPM Internet Speed DSL 3 Mbps |
16 Nov 2010
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| | Windows 7 64Bit Ultimate Edition SP1 626 posts NoNe Of YoUr BiZ :) |

Quote: Originally Posted by Ballistic As a side note: I am no longer using the HP I have listed as my system in my profile, I have recently built something of a budget gaming PC but I'm still using the 9600GT from the previous system for now
current system specs:
Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Bit
Case: NZXT Lexa S
PSU: Cooler Master GX 650
Mobo: Biostar A770E
Optical drive: LiteOn (iHAS424-98)
CPU: AMD Athlon 450 Rana 3.2 Ghz (Unlocked into a Phenom II X4 B50 3.2 Ghz)
CPU Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212 (Push pull with 2X120MM fans)
Ram: PNY 6 Ghz @ 667 Mhz (mixed it up for duel channel with matched sticks but 2 gig chips in first two dimms and 1 gig sticks in second two dimms)
Hard drives:2X Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200RPM
Graphics: 9600GT (To be upgraded to GTX 460)
Case cooling: 2X140 exhaust fans on top, 1X120 exhaust in the back, 2X120 intake fans
I have always heard of ATI going wrong, whilst i have also heard of NV going wrong m8. I would go for a DX11 Card from NVidia if you do not trust ATI.
If you are needing a card sooner than later, try the Nvidia Geforce GTX 460 796MB, they are low enough price unless you have a low budget m8.
Personally i would go for that or buy a kick ass NVidia. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Customised OS Windows 7 64Bit Ultimate Edition SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II X5 955 @ 3200 Mhz Motherboard Asus M5A99X EVO Memory G.Skill 12GB DDR3 1333MHz Graphics Card Palit GeForce GTX 550 Ti OC Sonic 1GB Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays LG 32" HDTV Screen Resolution 1920x1080 @ 60Hz Keyboard ADVENT Illuminated Keyboard Mouse Genius PSU Colors-IT 750w BLACK 12CM Silent Case Xigamatek CPC-T45UB-U01 Asgard Chassis Cooling 4 120mm Fans In Total Hard Drives Internal 250GB SATA 3.0 Western Digital WDC WD25 00AAKX-001CA0
Internal 500GB SATA 2.0 Seagate ST350041 3AS
Internal 500GB SATA 2.0 Western Digital WDC WD50 00AAKS-00WWP
External 1TB USB 2.0 Western Digital
External 2TB USB 2.0 Buffalo Internet Speed 30MB Other Info CPU Cooler - Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Cooler |
16 Nov 2010
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 7,123 posts In the Crust |

Quote: Originally Posted by rmw020 I have always heard of ATI going wrong, whilst i have also heard of NV going wrong m8. I would go for a DX11 Card from NVidia if you do not trust ATI. Unfortunately, this is my experience. I bought an ATI card once, and it worked great! The drivers on the other hand, didn't work at all.
~Lordbob | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Hera OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9 CPU Intel i5-2500k Motherboard ASUS P8P67 Pro Memory 2x 4Gb Corsair VENGEANCE DDR3-1600 Graphics Card NVidia GeForce N260GTX Twin Frozr Sound Card Realtek HD OnBoard Audio Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 24" Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Razer Tarantula Mouse Razer Lachesis PSU Cooler Master Real Power Pro 750W Case Cooler Master Haf 932 Cooling Fans Hard Drives G.SKILL Phoenix Series 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3R 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA II Internet Speed not fast enough |
17 Nov 2010
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| | Windows 7 Professional 64 bit 486 posts Australia all over |
Umm well I have had no problems with cards from either company..The ATI card and the current drivers I am using (V10.10) are running all the games I am currently playing, BC2,Fallout 3 New Vegas,Starcraft2,WoW, without issue.
However I know ATI drivers can be flaky supposedly but I have had no problems with the last 3 drivers released by them. Crossfire tho is a whole nother issue..lotsa problems and I personally would'nt run 2 cards in xfire.
If you are still going with NV I would think that it would be a smart move to wait and see what NV do re a 560..its going to be cooler and will (if the 580 is anything to go by) be a 15 to 20% improvement in performance over the existing 460.
Last edited by simmo; 17 Nov 2010 at 04:23 AM..
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18 Nov 2010
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit 96 posts |
Might go ATI after all... Kinda liking the XFX 5830... Currently $165 on newegg... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personal Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU AMD 450 Rana 3.2 Ghz (Unlocked into a Phenom II X4 B50 3.2) Motherboard Biostar A770E3 Memory PNY 6GB @ 667 Mhz (2X2GB In Dimm 1-2, 2X1GB In Dimm 3-4) Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD5830 Sound Card RocketFish 5.1 PCI Sound Card Monitor(s) Displays 22 inch Lenovo L215 LCD/ SCEPTRE 37 inch LCD-HD (Movies) Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU Cooler Master GX 650 Case NZXT Lexa S, Crafted Gaming Armour Series Cooling 2X140 exhaust on top, 1X120 exhaust the back, 2X120 intake Hard Drives 2X Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200RPM Internet Speed DSL 3 Mbps |
18 Nov 2010
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit 96 posts |
Funny story... Woke this morning and saw the GTX 460 OC 1Gb edition being offered by tigerdirect in a sales add for $89.99 after rebate... Couldn't get that price through the website so I spoke to live help and they said the sales add would be honored and I needed to call live support to place the order at the sales price and use a priority code to receive the sales price... I called and the guy basically fought up and down that I was lieing and there was no sales add, implying that I was being ridiculous to believe for a second that anyone would offer that card at that price and until he saw proof he wouldn't do a thing for me... So I took a screen shot of my proof and mailed it to his provided email address... He immediately got off the phone with me and minutes later the add was changed to depict a price of $189.99... the picture of the add is in the post on the next page... just thought someone may have found this whole thing amusing | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Personal Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU AMD 450 Rana 3.2 Ghz (Unlocked into a Phenom II X4 B50 3.2) Motherboard Biostar A770E3 Memory PNY 6GB @ 667 Mhz (2X2GB In Dimm 1-2, 2X1GB In Dimm 3-4) Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD5830 Sound Card RocketFish 5.1 PCI Sound Card Monitor(s) Displays 22 inch Lenovo L215 LCD/ SCEPTRE 37 inch LCD-HD (Movies) Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU Cooler Master GX 650 Case NZXT Lexa S, Crafted Gaming Armour Series Cooling 2X140 exhaust on top, 1X120 exhaust the back, 2X120 intake Hard Drives 2X Seagate Barracuda 320GB 7200RPM Internet Speed DSL 3 Mbps Worth upgrading older 9600GT to newer GTS 450??? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:19 PM. | |