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24 Dec 2010   #1

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Help Me Max Out Performance on this PC!

Hello guys. This is my first post in a long time. But straight to the point i guess.

You can read the specifications on my Seven Forums profile or go here Dell Inspiron 530 - Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4 GHz - Desktops - CNET Archive
If that is not the correct site for the specs I've provided on my Seven Forums profile posting a better or more up to date one would be appreciated

What I need is information on finding upgrades that will be the fastest and the most efficient one i can find including the best brand (perfomance and compatibility wise) starting with the graphics card and the power supply.

Basically i want to push this machine to its limits (But not close to breaking point)

So please help with Finding the best Brand Graphics Card, Power Supply, and type of RAM for maximum performance.

This Will be a learning experience for me and ya'lls recommondations will most likely be what i go with. Then i can let ya'll know how it goes

This is all preparation for the first computer i build from the ground up

Last time i was on here i got a lot of help. Hope to hear from you soon.

Happy Holidays


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25 Dec 2010   #2

windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
 
 

a better psu....300watts will not go far.....I don't know if your Dell case has a special/funky psu or not, or if it can be modified to take a standard atx psu
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25 Dec 2010   #3

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ivan the SoSo View Post
a better psu....300watts will not go far.....I don't know if your Dell case has a special/funky psu or not, or if it can be modified to take a standard atx psu
I am actually about to dust out the computer right now i will see if the psu can be changed. i was reading up on the situation on came across something like what you just mentioned... Hopefully your still on =)
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25 Dec 2010   #4

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At one time, Dell PCs had non-standard power supply connectors, but I am not sure if that is still true. You could check a Dell forum to confirm one way or another.

I wouldn't consider a new power supply unless I upgraded the graphics card, and even then I might not--it just depends on big of a jump you make.

If you decide to change power supplies, the default high quality brands are Seasonic and Corsair--and maybe some of the Antec brand. Most power supplies you see sold are just rebranded. In reality, there aren't many power supply manufacturers.

The modern tendency is to buy an 800 watt power supply when the PC doesn't use over 350 or 400 at full load, since even a child knows that 800 of anything is better than 400. Resist that if you are able.
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25 Dec 2010   #5

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ivan the SoSo View Post
a better psu....300watts will not go far.....I don't know if your Dell case has a special/funky psu or not, or if it can be modified to take a standard atx psu
OK so, I took off the panel that is meant to come off on the left side. The other panel has 2 screws in the back that i removed but still couldn't take it off. I'm thinking the motherboard is attached to it and i would have to remove that in order to upgrade the power supply because i seen something that looked like screws if I could just remove the other panel to see. Thats 4 screws i see. 2 in plain sight and 2 kind of hidden behind that panel. Seems about the right amount to remove a power supply, right? Is it worth the risk to remove the mother board and disconnect everything to remove and upgrade the power supply? Anyway...

I know motherboards are sensitive, one thing could go wrong and that's it. I'd of course use grounded straps and work on a glass table top. I just want your guys opinions in case you've done something like this.

And of course I am doing this as a learning experience. I want my first customer built computer to be built exactly how i like it.

Thanks for ALL responses.
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25 Dec 2010   #6

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
At one time, Dell PCs had non-standard power supply connectors, but I am not sure if that is still true. You could check a Dell forum to confirm one way or another.

I wouldn't consider a new power supply unless I upgraded the graphics card, and even then I might not--it just depends on big of a jump you make.

If you decide to change power supplies, the default high quality brands are Seasonic and Corsair--and maybe some of the Antec brand. Most power supplies you see sold are just rebranded. In reality, there aren't many power supply manufacturers.

The modern tendency is to buy an 800 watt power supply when the PC doesn't use over 350 or 400 at full load, since even a child knows that 800 of anything is better than 400. Resist that if you are able.
I agree with everything you said. I do indeed plan on upgrading the graphics card very soon, and i want to upgrade the power supply at the same time. Craigslist shows that Corsair has mostly 5 star reviews, haven't checked Seasonic or Antec.

I have 1 DVD Reader, a DVD Writer, 1 sata HDD (might add another in the future) and will have the best graphics card i can get for about $110, which doing my research i should be able to get a pretty decent one. So i plan on getting about a 500w power supply. Do you think that is enough?

Thanks for ya reply, information is the ****
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25 Dec 2010   #7

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In all likelihood, 500 is more than enough.

Look here for info on power consumption by video cards. Very few draw 200 watts.


http://www.neoseeker.com/forums/8/t1...umption-tests/

The rest of your stuff is ordinary. Look at my system specs. All of that, including a monitor, uses 165 running wide open. I have a minimum graphics card. Add a couple hundred watts for a high end one and you are at 365.

This will help you also--a thread at Silent PC regarding what can be run on 300 watts. The "you gotta have 700 watts" crowd will avert their eyes:


SPCR • View topic - How much will a 300w power supply run?

Seasonic makes most of Corsair's power supplies. You are better off with a good 450 than a no-name 650.

I doubt if you will have to remove the motherboard to change the power supply.
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25 Dec 2010   #8

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
In all likelihood, 500 is more than enough.

Look here for info on power consumption by video cards. Very few draw 200 watts.


Video Card Power Consumption Tests - Video Cards and Monitors - Neoseeker Forums

The rest of your stuff is ordinary. Look at my system specs. All of that, including a monitor, uses 165 running wide open. I have a minimum graphics card. Add a couple hundred watts for a high end one and you are at 365.

This will help you also--a thread at Silent PC regarding what can be run on 300 watts. The "you gotta have 700 watts" crowd will avert their eyes:


SPCR • View topic - How much will a 300w power supply run?

Seasonic makes most of Corsair's power supplies. You are better off with a good 450 than a no-name 650.

LoL @ "700 Watts Crowd". Like i said if I gotta try and remove the motherboard to upgrade the power supply because of my graphics card thats fine. This is practice before i get serious and build my own.

Whats that best graphics card i could get for about $120 on newegg? As long as a powersupply states its ATX and my tower is ATX will it fit %100 of the time?

This is what i have been thinking about upgrading with so far from newegg.com:

Graphics Card
Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100284L Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Power Supply
Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
RAM
Newegg.com - PNY 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model MD1024SD2-667-V2

I figure i'd go with the 550Watt in case i wanna replace my DVD Reader with a Bluray or something ...
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25 Dec 2010   #9

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IaskQuestions View Post

Whats that best graphics card i could get for about $120 on newegg? As long as a powersupply states its ATX and my tower is ATX will it fit %100 of the time?

This is what i have been thinking about upgrading with so far from newegg.com:

Graphics Card
Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100284L Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
Power Supply
Newegg.com - CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
RAM
Newegg.com - PNY 1GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model MD1024SD2-667-V2

I figure i'd go with the 550Watt in case i wanna replace my DVD Reader with a Bluray or something ...
I'm not a video card guru because I don't game. I can tell you that Sapphire is a good brand name.

Video cards are typically categorized by the processor on the card--the one you chose uses a Radeon 5750. I'd suggest you do a separate post in the gaming area regarding video. Tell them your budget.

That's assuming you are a gamer. If not, you certainly don't need a Radeon 5750.

Re the Corsair supply. Probably a good choice and probably made by Seasonic. Personally, I would go with a known Seasonic such as:

Newegg.com - SeaSonic S12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

Newegg.com - SeaSonic M12II 520 Bronze 520W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Newegg.com - SeaSonic S12II 620 Bronze 620W ATX12V V2.3 / EPS 12V V2.91 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

All 70 to 80 bucks and 520 to 630 Watts. The middle one, with the M in the model number, is a modular unit. The unneeded cables are detachable, which makes for a cleaner install and less clutter. Generally worthwhile.

Re RAM:

Go to Crucial.com. Enter your Dell model number in the configurator. It will spit out the exact model numbers of Crucial brand RAM that is guaranteed to be compatible with your specific Dell.

You can then buy the RAM direct from Crucial or go back to Newegg and price it there.

You may well be able to get away with PNY, but RAM is so finicky that I won't vary from Crucial or Corsair. It's up to you to CONFIRM that any chosen RAM is in fact compatible with your Dell motherboard. Look at your owner's manual, etc.

And you still need confirmation that your Dell can accept a standard ATX power supply. As I said earlier, maybe it will and maybe it won't. It will "fit", but it may not have correct connectors. Dell's used to be non-standard in that respect.

Saw a mention at Tom's Hardware that ATI wants you to have 450 watts if you are running a 5750 video card. Of course, that's not for the card alone. From what I can tell, the card itself maxes out under 100 watts.
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25 Dec 2010   #10

windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
 
 

I have in the past modified a HP case to take a ATX power supply....some tin snips and time....but that doesn't really apply to a Dell case. No law saying you have to stick with a Dell case though....be warned that the motherboard may not be ATX and may have non-standard power/restart/led connectors...also save the side with the Windows key!
Have a look at the Rosewill Power supplies on new egg/I have had no problems with them....Most likely from the same plant in China.
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