GeForce 9500GT On A Crappy PC.

MarcosFabian · Jan 21, 2011

Hey guys!
Well I have had enough with lame intergraded chipsets.
I was on Craiglist and I saw ATI Radeon X600 for 25 bucks.
I thought about buying but I asked around, and a buddy of mine advised to get a 9500GT instead. I was so psyched about it because it looks amazing!

But at first I was unsure if the X600 will even work on my PC.
Let's just say that my computer is extremely lame.

Here's my computer on Newegg, since Newegg has all the specs there;
Newegg.com - COMPAQ Presario SR5210NX(GN571AA) Celeron 420(1.60GHz) 1GB DDR2 120GB HDD Capacity Intel GMA 950 Windows Vista Home Premium

And here's what I want,
Newegg.com - EVGA 01G-P3-N959-TR GeForce 9500 GT 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

I just want to clarify if will be compatible.
Please help!

Darician · Jan 21, 2011

If you're willing to spend that much, may I suggest instead a Radeon HD 5570 (Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100293DP Radeon HD 5570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Low Profile Ready Video Card w/ Eyefinity) or a GeForce GT 220 (Newegg.com - EVGA 01G-P3-1226-LR GeForce GT 220 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card) or GeForce GT 430 (Newegg.com - ECS NGT430C-1GQR-F GeForce GT 430 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card). They will provide you better performance than the 9500 GT for similar price points. Any of these cards should and provide good performance at that price point. If you can go a bit higher ($75 - $100) a GT 240 or Radeon HD 5670 would provide even better performance.

MarcosFabian · Jan 21, 2011

Darician said:
If you're willing to spend that much, may I suggest instead a Radeon HD 5570 (Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100293DP Radeon HD 5570 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Low Profile Ready Video Card w/ Eyefinity) or a GeForce GT 220 (Newegg.com - EVGA 01G-P3-1226-LR GeForce GT 220 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card) or GeForce GT 430 (Newegg.com - ECS NGT430C-1GQR-F GeForce GT 430 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Video Card). They will provide you better performance than the 9500 GT for similar price points. Any of these cards should and provide good performance at that price point. If you can go a bit higher ($75 - $100) a GT 240 or Radeon HD 5670 would provide even better performance.

Thanks for that awesome reply.
Am sure I will consider about getting a DDR3 over DDR2.

Well,
Something else I need to have in mind.
And that my low power supply.

You think that will become an issue?

Darician · Jan 21, 2011

With the HD 5570, GT 220, or GT 430, it should be a non-issue. The GT 240 shouldn't present an issue either; the Radeon HD 5670 provided you don't buy one of the ones that requires the 6-pin power connector (such as Newegg.com - XFX HD-567X-YNF3 Radeon HD 5670 512MB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card with Eyefinity), you should be fine but it's a bit riskier and I have not had the chance to test it. The sure bets however are the lower end ones I suggested (including the GT 240). I use a GT 220 and have also used the 5570 in a computer with only a 240W Power Supply (an HP dc7100) from 2004 and they both ran just fine.

MarcosFabian · Jan 21, 2011

Darician said:
With the HD 5570, GT 220, or GT 430, it should be a non-issue. The GT 240 shouldn't present an issue either; the Radeon HD 5670 provided you don't buy one of the ones that requires the 6-pin power connector (such as Newegg.com - XFX HD-567X-YNF3 Radeon HD 5670 512MB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card with Eyefinity), you should be fine but it's a bit riskier and I have not had the chance to test it. The sure bets however are the lower end ones I suggested (including the GT 240). I use a GT 220 and have also used the 5570 in a computer with only a 240W Power Supply (an HP dc7100) from 2004 and they both ran just fine.

Awesome,
Just awesome,
Thank you so much for your help me.

I will stay from that Radeon 5670.

Solarstarshines · Jan 21, 2011

even if you do up your card you are running a celeron 1.6 ghz that alone is slowing you up

plus 1 gb ddr2 you need a few upgrades atleast 4 gbs of ram and a better processor is a must

i would think the video card is decent but ......still performance will be shotty

also it just depends on what you are trying to run and how well maintained the system is to begin with

just a couple of things to point out to you

5670- 400 watt minmum i think

MarcosFabian · Jan 21, 2011

Solarstarshines said:
even if you do up your card you are running a celeron 1.6 ghz that alone is slowing you up

plus 1 gb ddr2 you need a few upgrades atleast 4 gbs of ram and a better processor is a must

i would think the video card is decent but ......still performance will be shotty

also it just depends on what you are trying to run and how well maintained the system is to begin with

just a couple of things to point out to you

5670- 400 watt minmum i think

I know mate,
But am not going to be playing Crysis or anything.
Because my nerdy temptations cannot hold me back from playing at least some games.

Otherwise,
Your absolutely right Solarstarshines.
My PC is crappy. lol
I can only upgrade to Intel Celeron E1400 dual core. But that's about it.
I found it on Newegg here below;
Newegg.com - Intel Celeron E1400 Allendale 2.0GHz 512KB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor BX80557E1400

I think that's the only processor I can upgrade to.
But I am unsure.

I will try to get that processor, but it;s starting to become to get too expensive.
So I might just built a PC myself instead!

yowanvista · Jan 21, 2011

My PC is crappy. lol
I can only upgrade to Intel Celeron E1400 dual core. But that's about it.
I found it on Newegg here below;
Newegg.com - Intel Celeron E1400 Allendale 2.0GHz 512KB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor BX80557E1400

I think that's the only processor I can upgrade to.
But I am unsure.

Your board uses the LGA775 socket

Only P4, Celeron D,Pentium D, Pentium Dual Core, Core 2 Duo/Quad/Extreme and Xeon CPUs are supported

The best upgrade you can get is a Core 2 Quad Q9xxx CPU

http://www.intel.com/products/processor/core2quad/specifications.htm

MarcosFabian · Jan 21, 2011

yowanvista said:
My PC is crappy. lol
I can only upgrade to Intel Celeron E1400 dual core. But that's about it.
I found it on Newegg here below;
Newegg.com - Intel Celeron E1400 Allendale 2.0GHz 512KB L2 Cache LGA 775 65W Dual-Core Processor BX80557E1400

I think that's the only processor I can upgrade to.
But I am unsure.

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Your board uses the LGA775 socket

Only P4, Celeron D,Pentium D, Pentium Dual Core, Core 2 Duo/Quad/Extreme and Xeon CPUs are supported

The best upgrade you can get is a Core 2 Quad Q9xxx CPU

Intel® Core™2 Quad Processor - Specifications

Ahh,
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Yorkfield 3.0GHz 12MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80569Q9650
This will set me back a eon

But,
Am glad that there are more compatible processors than I thought.
I have a low budget,
And I've been saving up for the graphics card.
So am going to have to save up for a new processors,
Or a new and better computer!

Can't wait until I start to build a AMD rig,
It will be awesome!

Solarstarshines · Jan 21, 2011

yea for the price of the processor alone you could get a amd phenom quadcore for half the price then you could grab a mobo and 4 gigs of ram with the rest then spend a few more bucks and get the vid card i would say round 400 bucks with taxes included

MarcosFabian · Jan 21, 2011

Solarstarshines said:
yea for the price of the processor alone you could get a amd phenom quadcore for half the price then you could grab a mobo and 4 gigs of ram with the rest then spend a few more bucks and get the vid card i would say round 400 bucks with taxes included

Whoa, nice!
400 bucks sounds great!

Oh man, I can just imagine building my AMD rig.
It will be the greatest day of my life

bobkn · Jan 21, 2011

MarcosFabian said:
Solarstarshines said:

yea for the price of the processor alone you could get a amd phenom quadcore for half the price then you could grab a mobo and 4 gigs of ram with the rest then spend a few more bucks and get the vid card i would say round 400 bucks with taxes included

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Whoa, nice!
400 bucks sounds great!

Oh man, I can just imagine building my AMD rig.
It will be the greatest day of my life

$400 may be a bit optimistic for building a system, but for the listed parts it's reasonable.

Here's a fairly recent set of grocery lists for systems at a variety of levels of performance:

Holiday 2010 System Builder's Guide - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

Things change fast, though. The new stuff on the Intel side:

Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

(Intel I5-2500k "Sandy "Bridge", $225)

Get a third-party CPU cooler:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065&cm_re=hyper212-_-35-103-065-_-Product

(Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus, $30.)

Newegg.com - MSI P67A-C43 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

(MSI P67 mainboard, $130)

Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2B1600C9

(4GB Corsair DDR3-1600, $50)

That's $465, not including any possible shipping charges.

For a graphics card commensurate in performance, you could consider:

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

(Sapphire Radeon 6850, $175. A $15 rebate is available at the moment.)

All that is $640.

For a PSU:

Newegg.com - CORSAIR Builder Series CMPSU-500CX 500W ATX12V v2.3 Active PFC Power Supply

(Corsair "Builder", 500W, $60)

I'm not sure what case to suggest, but make sure that a 6850 would fit. I think you'd get something satisfactory for less than $50 (Cooler Master Centurion, or something newer).

This all comes to a tidy sum (around $750), without an operating system, but it ought to be an amazingly powerful system for the price. (Wouldn't be bad for actual work, either.)

Solarstarshines · Jan 21, 2011

bobkn said:
MarcosFabian said:

Solarstarshines said:

yea for the price of the processor alone you could get a amd phenom quadcore for half the price then you could grab a mobo and 4 gigs of ram with the rest then spend a few more bucks and get the vid card i would say round 400 bucks with taxes included

Click to expand...

Whoa, nice!
400 bucks sounds great!

Oh man, I can just imagine building my AMD rig.
It will be the greatest day of my life

Click to expand...

$400 may be a bit optimistic for building a system, but for the listed parts it's reasonable.

Here's a fairly recent set of grocery lists for systems at a variety of levels of performance:

Holiday 2010 System Builder's Guide - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

Things change fast, though. The new stuff on the Intel side:

Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

(Intel I5-2500k "Sandy "Bridge", $225)

Get a third-party CPU cooler:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065&cm_re=hyper212-_-35-103-065-_-Product

(Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus, $30.)

Newegg.com - MSI P67A-C43 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

(MSI P67 mainboard, $130)

Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2B1600C9

(4GB Corsair DDR3-1600, $50)

That's $465, not including any possible shipping charges.

For a graphics card commensurate in performance, you could consider:

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

(Sapphire Radeon 6850, $175. A $15 rebate is available at the moment.)

All that is $640.

For a PSU:

Newegg.com - CORSAIR Builder Series CMPSU-500CX 500W ATX12V v2.3 Active PFC Power Supply

(Corsair "Builder", 500W, $60)

I'm not sure what case to suggest, but make sure that a 6850 would fit. I think you'd get something satisfactory for less than $50 (Cooler Master Centurion, or something newer).

This all comes to a tidy sum (around $750), without an operating system, but it ought to be an amazingly powerful system for the price. (Wouldn't be bad for actual work, either.)

yea thats a nice build but im trying to help him with in a budget.

Like i said before you can still get a top amd processor for 50 dollars or more cheaper then a intel . I know sandy bridge is the new thing but he is on a budget

so go amd phenom discret card that isnt huge use the same case swap out the board supply and throw 4 gbs of decent speed ram

you don't need all the big boy toys if your not willing to spend that much yet.

When you ready and have the proper money then start going for the big guns .

Im looking out more for you're wallet then a super terror machine

also you might be able to get away with useing some old hardware from the current rig just saying 400.00 bucks is enough for all the upgrades if you price it right

MarcosFabian · Jan 21, 2011

bobkn said:
MarcosFabian said:

Solarstarshines said:

yea for the price of the processor alone you could get a amd phenom quadcore for half the price then you could grab a mobo and 4 gigs of ram with the rest then spend a few more bucks and get the vid card i would say round 400 bucks with taxes included

Click to expand...

Whoa, nice!
400 bucks sounds great!

Oh man, I can just imagine building my AMD rig.
It will be the greatest day of my life

Click to expand...

$400 may be a bit optimistic for building a system, but for the listed parts it's reasonable.

Here's a fairly recent set of grocery lists for systems at a variety of levels of performance:

Holiday 2010 System Builder's Guide - AnandTech :: Your Source for Hardware Analysis and News

Things change fast, though. The new stuff on the Intel side:

Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I52500K

(Intel I5-2500k "Sandy "Bridge", $225)

Get a third-party CPU cooler:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065&cm_re=hyper212-_-35-103-065-_-Product

(Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus, $30.)

Newegg.com - MSI P67A-C43 LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

(MSI P67 mainboard, $130)

Newegg.com - CORSAIR XMS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX4GX3M2B1600C9

(4GB Corsair DDR3-1600, $50)

That's $465, not including any possible shipping charges.

For a graphics card commensurate in performance, you could consider:

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity

(Sapphire Radeon 6850, $175. A $15 rebate is available at the moment.)

All that is $640.

For a PSU:

Newegg.com - CORSAIR Builder Series CMPSU-500CX 500W ATX12V v2.3 Active PFC Power Supply

(Corsair "Builder", 500W, $60)

I'm not sure what case to suggest, but make sure that a 6850 would fit. I think you'd get something satisfactory for less than $50 (Cooler Master Centurion, or something newer).

This all comes to a tidy sum (around $750), without an operating system, but it ought to be an amazingly powerful system for the price. (Wouldn't be bad for actual work, either.)

Awesome grocery list mate!
But am going to be patient ant just wait a while until I can afford it.
But really,
Thanks for that list,
I know it must of taken work to put together.

I got enough to get more RAM!
I was thinking about getting 4Gigs.
2GB per card since the mobo only supports two slots.
I found these on Newegg!
Newegg.com - WINTEC AMPX 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Desktop Memory Model 3AXT6400C5-2048

Solarstarshines said:
yea thats a nice build but im trying to help him with in a budget.

Like i said before you can still get a top amd processor for 50 dollars or more cheaper then a intel . I know sandy bridge is the new thing but he is on a budget

so go amd phenom discret card that isnt huge use the same case swap out the board supply and throw 4 gbs of decent speed ram

you don't need all the big boy toys if your not willing to spend that much yet.

When you ready and have the proper money then start going for the big guns .

Im looking out more for you're wallet then a super terror machine

also you might be able to get away with useing some old hardware from the current rig just saying 400.00 bucks is enough for all the upgrades if you price it right

I think am going to stay from Intel for a while until I save enough money for a future rig.
I really don't want think too much about buying more and more because I think that will cause problems. . .
But for now,
Am looking forward on building AMD machines!

bobkn · Jan 21, 2011

Solarstarshines said:
yea thats a nice build but im trying to help him with in a budget.

Like i said before you can still get a top amd processor for 50 dollars or more cheaper then a intel . I know sandy bridge is the new thing but he is on a budget

so go amd phenom discret card that isnt huge use the same case swap out the board supply and throw 4 gbs of decent speed ram

you don't need all the big boy toys if your not willing to spend that much yet.

When you ready and have the proper money then start going for the big guns .

Im looking out more for you're wallet then a super terror machine

also you might be able to get away with useing some old hardware from the current rig just saying 400.00 bucks is enough for all the upgrades if you price it right

I wasn't trying to spec out a Ferrari of a PC; it's more of a Mustang GT. Fast, fun, and relatively cheap. The second generation Intel I5/I7 CPUs give a significant improvement in price/performance, at least for people willing to overclock.

I haven't used an AMD CPU since the Socket 939 days, but I wouldn't hesitate to go back with them if they took the performance lead (for mainstream CPUs) again.

MarcosFabian · Jan 21, 2011

Hey guys,
Can anyone recomed me RAM?
Am looking for cheap RAM.
Am trying to get 4GB,
But there's so many brands. . .

EDIT
Okay so am sure my computer cannot handle the graphics cards.
I think my power supply until only has 250Watts.
From what I've heard, it's a piece of crap . . .

bobkn · Jan 22, 2011

MarcosFabian said:
Hey guys,
Can anyone recomed me RAM?
Am looking for cheap RAM.
Am trying to get 4GB,
But there's so many brands. . .

EDIT
Okay so am sure my computer cannot handle the graphics cards.
I think my power supply until only has 250Watts.
From what I've heard, it's a piece of crap . . .

According to Crucial:

Computer memory upgrades for HP - Compaq Presario SR5210NX Desktop/PC from Crucial.com

your PC has two memory slots, and each is limited to 1GB max, so 2GB is as far as you can go. HP confirms that:

Compaq Presario SR5210NX Desktop PC Product Specifications Compaq Presario SR5210NX Desktop PC - HP Customer Care (Canada - English)

The Crucial memory is reasonably cheap ($40US), and you'd be about as safe as possible with it as regards compatibility.

MarcosFabian · Jan 22, 2011

bobkn said:
MarcosFabian said:

Hey guys,
Can anyone recomed me RAM?
Am looking for cheap RAM.
Am trying to get 4GB,
But there's so many brands. . .

EDIT
Okay so am sure my computer cannot handle the graphics cards.
I think my power supply until only has 250Watts.
From what I've heard, it's a piece of crap . . .

Click to expand...

According to Crucial:

Computer memory upgrades for HP - Compaq Presario SR5210NX Desktop/PC from Crucial.com

your PC has two memory slots, and each is limited to 1GB max, so 2GB is as far as you can go. HP confirms that:

Compaq Presario SR5210NX Desktop PC Product Specifications Compaq Presario SR5210NX Desktop PC - HP Customer Care (Canada - English)

The Crucial memory is reasonably cheap ($40US), and you'd be about as safe as possible with it as regards compatibility.

Thanks for your reply,
But am not longer able to get the RAM upgrades because my weak power supply.
I have to upgrade that first,
Because I originally just wanted a 9500GT,
But I realized that my power supply cannot handle it.
I don't want to risk anything so I went on Newegg.com and found these two power supply, but I don't know which one to get.

I could buy either one of these two.
But which one should I get?
Rosewill 350W - Newegg.com - Rosewill RV350 350W ATX 1.3 Power Supply

Rosewill Stallion 450W - Newegg.com - Rosewill Stallion Series RD450-2-SB 450W ATX V2.2 Power Supply

Darician · Jan 23, 2011

I'd say the 450W. For the price, it's real good.

bobkn · Jan 23, 2011

MarcosFabian said:
Thanks for your reply,
But am not longer able to get the RAM upgrades because my weak power supply.
I have to upgrade that first,
Because I originally just wanted a 9500GT,
But I realized that my power supply cannot handle it.
I don't want to risk anything so I went on Newegg.com and found these two power supply, but I don't know which one to get.

I could buy either one of these two.
But which one should I get?
Rosewill 350W - Newegg.com - Rosewill RV350 350W ATX 1.3 Power Supply

Rosewill Stallion 450W - Newegg.com - Rosewill Stallion Series RD450-2-SB 450W ATX V2.2 Power Supply

I doubt that the PSU would limit your RAM at all. The extra power needed for 2GB would be negligible.

I've never bought much of the Rosewill stuff, which is a Newegg house brand, but I'd suggest this alternative:

Newegg.com - Antec EarthWatts Green EA-380D Green 380W Continuous power ATX12V v2.3 / EPS12V 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

(Antec Earthwatts 380). While its a 380W PSU, it is rated at 17A/15A on its two +12V lines. The 450W Rosewill is rated 14A/16A. It has the same price (including free shipping) as the Rosewill 450.

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