Sandybridge GPU

Skulblaka · Jun 4, 2011

Hello everyone, it's me again.

What type of GPU works well with sandybridge CPU's, if even there is such a thing.

Also, it turns out the ASUS Rampage III Extreme motherboard is incompatible with i7 2600k CPU socket. Meaning I need to get a different motherboard. What do are your opinions on Intel P67 motherboard, it works well and is built exclusively for sandybridge processors, i7 2600k.

Fumz · Jun 4, 2011

Hi Skulblaka,

Literally any GPU works with Sandy Bridge... or any other cpu you can think of. All a GPU has to do is fit the spec: PCI-e. The cpu pushing it is irrelevant.

Skulblaka · Jun 4, 2011

Fumz said:
Hi Skulblaka,

Literally any GPU works with Sandy Bridge... or any other cpu you can think of. All a GPU has to do is fit the spec: PCI-e. The cpu pushing it is irrelevant.

I thought that too but wasn't sure.

Now I await for comments on a p67 motherboard. :huh:

Fumz · Jun 4, 2011

It's great, I love mine.

Skulblaka · Jun 4, 2011

Fumz said:
It's great, I love mine.

I'll get it then, I'm getting RAM that is designed for that motherboard too. Everything is going well so far.

gazz9496 · Jun 5, 2011

the asus p8 overclocks better than most boards but some report it has some minor stability issues, what they are i have no idea.

the intel board i picked up doesn't overclock quite as well but is suppose to be a bit more stable. i can get 5.05 ghz out of my 2600 i went down to 4.5ghz after trying it i didn't feel comfy putting it that high on day 1.

the asus board will take it higher than that 5.1ghz

4.5ghz can be easily achieved on the stock cooler as well going higher you may want to look at a better cooling solution but it does it so well

Fumz · Jun 5, 2011

gazz9496 said:
the asus p8 overclocks better than most boards but some report it has some minor stability issues, what they are i have no idea.

Overclocking using offset voltage may cause instability; not while clocked up, but when the system is idle or doing little or no work, like youtube.

Manually setting voltage doesn't cause the stability issues, even if you're setting vcore for the same amount; however, going that route you can't take advantage of all the power savings... the multiplier will drop, but the voltage will remain constant.

I've tried it both ways... manually works great, but then again so does - offset @ 0.07. I'll keep using offset mode unless I start seeing this behavior... but so far so good.

cmd187 · Jun 5, 2011

P67 are now pointless. You want Z68. All benefits of LGA 1155, no cons.

Skulblaka · Jun 5, 2011

cmd187 said:
P67 are now pointless. You want Z68. All benefits of LGA 1155, no cons.

Hm, still prefer this one...

Fumz · Jun 6, 2011

Skulblaka said:
cmd187 said:

P67 are now pointless. You want Z68. All benefits of LGA 1155, no cons.

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Hm, still prefer this one...

Nice choice. P67 is hardly pointless. In fact, one could make the same argument against Z68: if you have a graphics card, Z68 is pointless. See how that can work both ways.

cmd187 · Jun 6, 2011

Fumz said:
Skulblaka said:

cmd187 said:

P67 are now pointless. You want Z68. All benefits of LGA 1155, no cons.

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Hm, still prefer this one...

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Nice choice. P67 is hardly pointless. In fact, one could make the same argument against Z68: if you have a graphics card, Z68 is pointless. See how that can work both ways.

P67 cannot run the onboard GPU at the same time as a dedicated card. Z68 can, so its more robust and flexible. If you go for P67 you are stuck with a GPU, not so with the Z68. Your choice if you want onboard, dedicated, or both.

Fumz · Jun 6, 2011

cmd187 said:
Fumz said:

Skulblaka said:

Hm, still prefer this one...

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Nice choice. P67 is hardly pointless. In fact, one could make the same argument against Z68: if you have a graphics card, Z68 is pointless. See how that can work both ways.

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P67 cannot run the onboard GPU at the same time as a dedicated card. Z68 can, so its more robust and flexible. If you go for P67 you are stuck with a GPU, not so with the Z68. Your choice if you want onboard, dedicated, or both.

"stuck" with a gpu that can run games instead of onboard which can't... yeah. :sarc:
You understood the logic of my post, right?

cmd187 · Jun 6, 2011

Fumz said:
cmd187 said:

Fumz said:

Nice choice. P67 is hardly pointless. In fact, one could make the same argument against Z68: if you have a graphics card, Z68 is pointless. See how that can work both ways.

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P67 cannot run the onboard GPU at the same time as a dedicated card. Z68 can, so its more robust and flexible. If you go for P67 you are stuck with a GPU, not so with the Z68. Your choice if you want onboard, dedicated, or both.

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"stuck" with a gpu that can run games instead of onboard which can't... yeah. :sarc:
You understood the logic of my post, right?

But if you then stop playing games and wish to use the built-in Quick Sync of the integrated GPU to vastly accelerate your video encodes you can't. And only Z68 can switch off the power hungry GPU depending on the Virtu settings. Best of both worlds, so P67 is pointless.

Fumz · Jun 6, 2011

cmd187 said:
Fumz said:

cmd187 said:

P67 cannot run the onboard GPU at the same time as a dedicated card. Z68 can, so its more robust and flexible. If you go for P67 you are stuck with a GPU, not so with the Z68. Your choice if you want onboard, dedicated, or both.

Click to expand...

"stuck" with a gpu that can run games instead of onboard which can't... yeah. :sarc:
You understood the logic of my post, right?

Click to expand...

But if you then stop playing games and wish to use the built-in Quick Sync of the integrated GPU to vastly accelerate your video encodes you can't. And only Z68 can switch off the power hungry GPU depending on the Virtu settings. Best of both worlds, so P67 is pointless.

"Vastly?"

Clearly, we disagree on what "vast" means. To me, vast means large... of great size. If you're suggesting that encoding is "vastly" superior on the Z68, then please, support that claim with links. The only thing I find is that they're essentially identical.
Fully-Fledged LGA1155 Platform: Intel Z68 Express Chipset Review. Page 5 - X-bit labs

[The three major media encoding applications that can take advantage of Quick Sync are MediaConverter, MediaEspresso, and Badaboom. By default, the first two programs are whitelisted by Virtu, but we can't get the latest version of MediaConverter 7 to transcode Blu-ray-quality video. For some reason, the progress bar stalls at 0%. This seems to be a glitch limited to our Z68 platform, which we hope will be solved quickly.

Lucidlogix

As for the Z68 using less power, that's also false.

The only drawback we found about the new Intel Z68 chipset is higher power consumption of the systems with it. Our tests showed that the platforms built around an older P67 chipset, which doesn’t give you access to the integrated graphics core, consume considerably less power.

Fully-Fledged LGA1155 Platform: Intel Z68 Express Chipset Review. Page 11 - X-bit labs

cmd187 · Jun 6, 2011

Only their power consumption tests, and it depends for each set up; as for Quick Sync:

"Another useful advantage is Virtu technology developed by Lucid Company. This technology allows users of Sandy Bridge systems with discrete graphics cards to get access to one of the most interesting CPU features – Intel Quick Sync technology. This technology integrated into the graphics core inside the CPU delivers unprecedented HD video transcoding speed and now it automatically becomes an advantage of any Intel Z68 based system supporting Virtu without the need to compromise."

Fumz · Jun 6, 2011

omg dude... really?

Go back, click the links, see where the encoding performance is identical. Come back here wondering why that's the case, then re-read this:

[The three major media encoding applications that can take advantage of Quick Sync are MediaConverter, MediaEspresso, and Badaboom. By default, the first two programs are whitelisted by Virtu, but we can't get the latest version of MediaConverter 7 to transcode Blu-ray-quality video. For some reason, the progress bar stalls at 0%. This seems to be a glitch limited to our Z68 platform, which we hope will be solved quickly.

Lucidlogix

That "unprecedented transcoding speed" doesn't actually exist... look up 1 sentence to see why.

cmd187 · Jun 6, 2011

Look at the conclusion - page 11. Its there. And this is a driver glitch for a new platform. It will be ironed out and performance will improve.

Fumz · Jun 6, 2011

I'm sure the platform will improve... that was never in question. Hopefully Intel won't devote all their energy to X79. The point of all this back and forth though remains the same... and that's that while Z68 is a full feature board that can take advantage of the on die gpu, not everyone will want or need this, so P67 isn't "pointless".

I don't think I've ever had a board where I used all of its features... and I know I'm not alone. If someone finds a better deal on a P67 that has everything he needs and nothing he doesn't, then it's still a good buy.

cmd187 · Jun 6, 2011

You may need this option in the future, and you wouldn't be happy knowing that a Z68 option would give you what you wanted but you chose a more limited chipset.

Fumz · Jun 6, 2011

The right platform for the right job.

Never mind that I have zero interest in encoding video, nor will I develop an interest in encoding video, but if for arguments sake I did, I would not pick Z68 to do the job. I'd get a hex-core AMD.

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