| Windows 7: Piecing together from several towers |
09 Jul 2011
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Piecing together from several towers My HP laptop just fried after only 2 years, so I got several cheap towers from someone to piece together the best computer I can.
They're all older towers:
1. Dell Dimension 2400 - 2.6 ghz, 2mb, 256mb pci graphics card, 250 psu. (no agp or pci-e)
2. Dell Dimension 4500 - 1.8 ghz, 2mb, 256mb pci-e graphics card, 250 psu (pci-e)
3. Not sure of brand name, maybe Gateway, and has se440bx2 motherboard
2.2 ghz with 300 psu. (agp slot)
Since I use my HDTV as my monitor, I want to get a graphics card with a hdmi port.
My question is, considering the specs of the towers, what kind of graphic card should I get - pci, agp, pci-e and which combination would give me the best performance?
I'm thinking of getting a 512mb graphics card with hdmi port...would the upgrade to 512mb from 256mb even make that much of a difference? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number hp pavillion g60-120us OS windows 7 ultimate CPU amd dual core 64 Memory 3gb Graphics Card nvidia g force 8200m Monitor(s) Displays samsung hdtv Screen Resolution 1366x768 Case notebook Hard Drives toshiba mk2552gsx (250gb) Internet Speed time warner broad band |
09 Jul 2011
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#2 | | Win 7 Ultimate x64 Etobicoke, Ontario |
Hate to say it but how about none of the above. Specs for both Dells,
2400 - Documentation
4500 - Documentation
Neither has a PCI-E slot, and only the 4500 came with an AGP slot. In either case a video card with a HDMI port on it is worth more than both of those computers combined. You're looking at close to $100.00 for either a PCI or AGP card with HDMI. The best I can suggest would be to make do with the 2400 as it is slightly better than the 4500 until such a time as you can get a new desktop or laptop.
As for that one with the se440bx2 in it, if that number is correct then what is shown here (sorry direct download link), http://download.intel.com/support/mo...2/72163201.pdf
then that thing is well beyond its best before date. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Win 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Phenom II x4 955 @ 4 GHz. Motherboard Asus M5A97 EVO Memory 2x2 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 6850 Sound Card Xonar DGX w/ Logitech X-530 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S232HL Abid Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech G5 v2 PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Green Case Antec Three Hundred Cooling Cooler Master 212 EVO Hard Drives 120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
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09 Jul 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 64b Ultimate Netherlands |
Hello Fatbottoms,
That's not an easy question as we don't know what it is you want to do....
But from the info given I'd say the Dimension 2400 is the only one that you could consider if you use these at all. If I'm correct, it's the only one out of the three that can handle 2Gb of RAM, which in my opinion is the minimum you want for Windows 7.... Given that motherboard, the simplest PCI card with hdmi would do... I think... but havent'checked that yet as, again, we need to hear more from you | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number custom build OS Windows 7 64b Ultimate CPU I7-2600 3.40GHz - testing various OC levels.. Motherboard ASUS Sabretooth Memory 2x 4Gb DDR3/1333 Graphics Card GTX570 - testing OC levels Sound Card motherboard 7.1 DIG. Monitor(s) Displays 2x Ilyama 24" E2409HDS-B1 2ms/DVI Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech G700 PSU Corsair Pro HX850W Cooling Coolermaster Hyper V8 Hard Drives 120 GB Intel Elmcrest SSD
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External 2TB USB3 Internet Speed 25Mb Other Info CPU: 7,7 RAM: 7,7 GTX: 7,9 GTX 3D : 7,9 SSD 7,6
Overall 7,6 ...... now to speed up the SSD... ;)
Also use a Dell XPS M1710 on Vista 32b
Asus LT on Vista 32
3 older machines still doing fine on Linux/ubuntu but not used much anymore... |
09 Jul 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 Danbury, CT |
According to Dell, A Dimension 4500 is an AGP/PCI system. (No PCI-E.) DDR memory. It supports a maximum of 1GB of RAM (two DIMM slots, max. 512 MB each).
The 2400 is similar, except that it has no AGP graphics slot. It goes to 2GB of RAM (2 slots, 1GB each).
The Intel se440bx2 (Seattle 2) is a Slot I system (Pentium II). It uses 168 pin SDRAM, as much as 384 MB of it. It's not a candidate for Windows 7 at all.
Not to be harsh, but are you quite sure that you wish to buy a Windows 7 license for any one of these? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homegrown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7-3930k Motherboard Asus P9X79 Pro Memory 16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133 Graphics Card eVGA GTX680 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays As PA246Q Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard cheap Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB PSU PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire Case Silverstone FT02 Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
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09 Jul 2011
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#5 | | |
I guess I'm wrong about Dell 4500, but I thought a green slot on the motherboard indicated a pci-e slot...doesn't the color of the slots indicate type of graphic card - white=pci, brown=agp, green= pci-e?
As for the ram on the Dell 4500, it does support 2gb.
It came with 2gb of ram and the computer recognizes the 2gigs, and I've been running it for the past few days without any problems.
I've already installed Windows 7 Ultimate on both the Dell towers and they both seem to run fine without a problem...had some trouble with some drivers, but got it figured out.
I even ran the tower with se440bx2 with 2gb of ram I took out of one of the Dell's and the tower ran fine, although I didn't put Windows 7 on it... this motherboard has a brown agp slot.
As for the kind of use, I'm not a big gamer, although I'll play Halo 2 occasionally.
I just want something that'll stream and display HD without any problems, and also I do graphic design, so I need something that'll be able to handle graphic apps like Photoshop.
Also, I've found agp, pci, and pci-e cards (512mb) on Amazon for around 50 or less.
Although I paid 100 for all three towers, I think the 50 is worth the investment for the graphic card with the hdmi just for the HD display and audio also...the resolution is horrible with vga I'm using.
I realize these towers are relics archaeologists dug up, but these are basically going to be my back up computers until I get my laptop fixed or get another one.
I'm finding out from my computer repair guy that HP are notorious for running hot, and that the majority of repairs are all HP...even the plastic casing around my laptop started to warp.
Granted, I ran my laptop (HP G60-120US) like a desktop, keeping it on most of the day, but the laptop only lasted 2 years...700 down the drain. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number hp pavillion g60-120us OS windows 7 ultimate CPU amd dual core 64 Memory 3gb Graphics Card nvidia g force 8200m Monitor(s) Displays samsung hdtv Screen Resolution 1366x768 Case notebook Hard Drives toshiba mk2552gsx (250gb) Internet Speed time warner broad band |
09 Jul 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 Danbury, CT |

Quote: Originally Posted by fatbottoms As for the ram on the Dell 4500, it does support 2gb.
(snip)
I even ran the tower with se440bx2 with 2gb of ram I took out of one of the Dell's and the tower ran fine, although I didn't put Windows 7 on it... this motherboard has a brown agp slot. Officially, the 4500 only supports 512MB DIMMs. It has the same basic chipset as the 2400, so I can believe that 1GB sticks fit.
How'd you manage to get 184 pin DDR to run in an SE440BX-2, which supports 168 pin SDRAM? (I see that you can get 256MB sticks, but if memory serves, they have to be low density.)
If you're quite serious about the graphics card, you may find this worth a look: Newegg.com - Computer Hardware, Video Cards & Video Devices, Desktop Graphics / Video Cards, AGP 4X/8X, PCI, 1 x HDMI | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homegrown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7-3930k Motherboard Asus P9X79 Pro Memory 16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133 Graphics Card eVGA GTX680 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays As PA246Q Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard cheap Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB PSU PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire Case Silverstone FT02 Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black Internet Speed 6Mb cable Other Info Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers |
10 Jul 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 64b Ultimate Netherlands |
Next time you run your LT as a DT... consider taking out the battery. It spares it (the battery and the LT) and helps in reducing temps... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number custom build OS Windows 7 64b Ultimate CPU I7-2600 3.40GHz - testing various OC levels.. Motherboard ASUS Sabretooth Memory 2x 4Gb DDR3/1333 Graphics Card GTX570 - testing OC levels Sound Card motherboard 7.1 DIG. Monitor(s) Displays 2x Ilyama 24" E2409HDS-B1 2ms/DVI Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech G700 PSU Corsair Pro HX850W Cooling Coolermaster Hyper V8 Hard Drives 120 GB Intel Elmcrest SSD
1 TB SATAII 7200RPM/32MB
External 2TB USB3 Internet Speed 25Mb Other Info CPU: 7,7 RAM: 7,7 GTX: 7,9 GTX 3D : 7,9 SSD 7,6
Overall 7,6 ...... now to speed up the SSD... ;)
Also use a Dell XPS M1710 on Vista 32b
Asus LT on Vista 32
3 older machines still doing fine on Linux/ubuntu but not used much anymore... |
10 Jul 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
I wouldn't go buy the colors, I've seen blue, green, brown, etc. Also an AGP slot can look very similar to a PCIe slot but one is not compatible with the other. You wouldn't get an AGP card in a PCIe slot or vise versa, not without a hammer anyway. One way to confirm what it is , is to take the video card that is in it and Google it. Sounds like it is AGP though, based on what the system specs say. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 |
10 Jul 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 Southern California |
This might be a perfect application for windows 7 ready boost feature by adding a 4-8gb usb stick of fast flash memory and letting it settle in for a few days.
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10 Jul 2011
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#10 | | windows 7 ultimate 64 bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric I wouldn't go buy the colors, I've seen blue, green, brown, etc. Also an AGP slot can look very similar to a PCIe slot but one is not compatible with the other. You wouldn't get an AGP card in a PCIe slot or vise versa, not without a hammer anyway. One way to confirm what it is , is to take the video card that is in it and Google it. Sounds like it is AGP though, based on what the system specs say. Try here How to identify the type of PCI bus? | Excel.nl | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homemade OS windows 7 ultimate 64 bit CPU FX 8350@4300mhz COOLER MASTER Seidon 120M water cooler Motherboard ASRock 990FX Extreme4 AM3+ Memory 16gb Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire 5850 & XFX 5850 crossfire Monitor(s) Displays hanns g 1680X1050 Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard z merc Mouse Logitech wireless m705 PSU dual Antec 650 & Rosewill 530 watt continuous Case homemade Cooling 4 120mm@50cfm each/2 120mm@90cfm Hard Drives ADATA 256 gig SSD + 2 junk Internet Speed dsl Piecing together from several towers problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:02 PM. | |