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Windows 7: 59Hz

07 Dec 2009   #291
omnimodis78

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

I am getting so sick of this issue. I have to add my weekly complaint about it lol. I really can't understand why you (gohan2091) wouldn't be able to enable vsync though. I haven't had any such issues. although even with vsync enabled, I get tearing. In most games, you can specify the refresh rate in the game - mine usually is set to 59Hz by default, so I get tearing with vsync enabled regardless if I leave it on 59Hz or 60Hz. I have replayed games (CoD Modern Warfare) that I remember specifically never to have given me any tearing issues under XP, but now it does. So clearly there's an issue. I will keep repeating myself until this gets fixed: there's a problem somewhere and I don't buy Microsoft's explanation about the number rounding - if it was just that I wouldn't care, but I get tearing with vsync enabled and refresh rates set (in game) to both 59Hz and 60Hz. And to this day nobody has explained to me what refresh rate is my system set to. What happens if I really want my monitor to run at 59Hz, if the setting "59Hz" is actually 60Hz, then how do you get real 59Hz? Just asking. I don't buy this rounding nonsense. Don't be shy people, keep posting here and grow this thread so that it becomes substantial. I am a gamer and I use my PC for watching movies. For me tearing is a real issue which shouldn't be an issue with an OS which is marketed on its visual and multimedia experience premise. Clearly video tearing was a non-issue in XP, and Vista, and it's an issue in Windows7 and yet Microsoft is blaming our hardware? BULL ****!!!


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07 Dec 2009   #292
scatology

windows 7 x64
 
 

I'm agree with you omnimodis78.

I have the same problem. I have a Acer x223w and SLi of gtx 280. My monitor is not a good monitor but I don't have this problem in vista and xp...

I come back on vista... shame on me.
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07 Dec 2009   #293
Mark

Windows 7 Ultimate Vista Ultimate x64
 
 

Well for me 59Htz has not been a problem at all and I have been able to enable V-Sync in every game that I play and have never noticed any tearing with it enabled and all my games play smoothly at 60fps.
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20 Dec 2009   #294
Deanos

 
 
Best solution!!!!

Hi guys...

Been a while since anybody has posted here, wonder if you all found your own solutions????

OK, so I had to format and re-install my Win 7 due to a NASTY virus that ate everything up!!!! I didn't have the time to sit and manually remove the thing so I chose the quick way out!

After doing all the updates, installing everything I need and updating that, I remembered about this 59Hz thing...
So, I thought I would try a few things that never worked in the past from here...

This actually worked first time around...

Screen Refresh Rate - Custom for NVIDIA Brand

- Go to nVidia Control Panel
- Go to Add resolution
- Create Custom Resolution
- Click on Timing
- Click on Manual
- Set refresh rate to 60.001 Hz
- Press Apply

But what I did realize now is possibly where myself and some other may have gone wrong....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Deanos View Post
Nope, doesn't work for me!

Tells me that 60,001 is out of range!

Can only set between 58,000 and 60,000?!?!?
As I mentioned in this post, it would not accept the 60,001, although it did this time.
The solution I found for that was to set it to 60,000 first, click accept, but this still gives the refresh at 59Hz...
Then I tried again, and by some miracle, it opened and accepted 60,001!
Infact, I can even go right up to 64Hz now, but it gives some problems...

So, I hope this can help a few of you out...

Cheers all and have a FANTASTIC Christmas and New Year!!!!!
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20 Dec 2009   #295
Deanos

 
 

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21 Dec 2009   #296
DHAmoKK

Windows 7 RC x64
 
 

Hi,

I'm now using the 195.62 driver. First it still didn't work, but now the trick with the 60,001Hz DOES work My monitor now shows 60Hz (in 1920x1200) and I'll tell you another thing: I now can play Games with fixed resolution without problems!
For example 'A Vampyre Story': My monitor is now getting the real resolution of '1024x768' and I can use the internal upscaling functions. I really don't know, if it's only the new driver doing this or a mix of the driver and the 60,001Hz setting.

Since I'm still using the Win7 RC, I'm curious, if it still works with the final release, I buyed it a few days ago and I'm awaiting the parcel tomorrow, installing it on x-mas though.
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22 Dec 2009   #297
omnimodis78

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

If you read the nvidia driver 195.62 release notes, there's a section in there with the heading "Windows 7 Limitations" - which, would you look at that, addresses this issue ( http://us.download.nvidia.com/Window...ease_Notes.pdf ). So apparently nVidia is clear about the fact that this is not their problem and obviously it's something they are not going to fix (rightly so if it's not their doing). The 60.001 workaround works and tearing is gone (yet another proof that Microsoft's rounding explanation is BS (as they stated, 59Hz is really 59.96Hz which is effectively 60Hz...and yet some of us are getting tearing we haven't seen before). Here's what I want Microsoft to answer (let me put it in point form):
1. If I choose 60Hz but it keeps chaning back to 59Hz, then what actual refresh rate am I using?
2. If I choose 60Hz but then it changes to 59Hz and then I decide I really do want 59Hz, how do I now select 59Hz if it's already in that mode (but supposedly it's really at 60Hz)?
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25 Dec 2009   #298
chrysalis

windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

I got curious and checked my monitor, it reports as 60khz but nvidia panel says 59khz. So far I noticed no issues in games but however if games are showing problems such as tearing then I back all you guys up, microsoft should revert the behaviour back to rounding up as to maintain compatability.
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26 Dec 2009   #299
gohan2091

Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
 
 

What about us ATI users? Anything in the control panel for us?
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26 Dec 2009   #300
Evildemon

Windows 7 x64 Retail
 
 

hey gohan the solution i found to resolve the problem was to make the connection using a hdmi cable instead of a dvi (with a adapter on the graphic card dvi-hdmi)... it solved for me : D
My graphic card is a sapphire 4890...
now i can normally set 60hz : D
See if it solves to you too ^^
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