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Windows 7: Latest AMD Catalyst Video Driver for Windows 7


27 Oct 2012   #1881

Dual Boot Win 7 Pro x86 + Win XP SP3
 
 

argghh I failed one of my biggest annoyances - not mentioning specific hardware! Sorry.

i'm not ashamed to say it's an old one, HD3850 (AGP). now don't strike me down with a blowtorch but i'm not a gamer, i've a console for that so my system atm serves it's daily purposes. the reason for this current state of confusion is due to not booting into 7 for quite a while (all my work and image editing utils are accessed through XP) and a dialogue popped up saying there was an update for 12.10, so i applied it. i went and checked ATI (AMD's) website and yes (thanks for the info) i now realise 12.6 will be the best i can hope for BUT when i tried 12.6 the first time it was released CCC didn't show it had been updated. i since rolled back to 12.4 because .6 was somehow useless playing stutter-free 720p on youtube, .4 was, and still remains, great. i guess for now i shall dismiss future updates until i return from the stone age and upgrade my hardware

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27 Oct 2012   #1882

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 / WinXP Pro x86 on (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dsperber View Post
Final post-script, I'm sure...
Nope... one more final final post-script.

I'm an idiot.

I had occasion to rebuild my two machines this weekend, and transplanted my HD4850 to the other machine. Consequently I had to uninstall currently running Catalyst 12.8 (in support of the HD5770 previously in the machine) in order to install 12.6 or lower since the HD4850 needed it. Well once again I was unable to install 12.6, and had to revert to my old 12.3 which would install.

However even after getting 12.3 installed, for some reason I couldn't use the "trick" I thought I'd discovered and described earlier a few weeks ago, of simply using Device Manager to "update drivers", pointing to where the 12.6 INF file was located. This had worked successfully for me a few weeks back to get from 12.3 to 12.6, but not this weekend for some reason.


Well, the problem all along with being unable to update drivers past 12.3 for my HD4850 would appear to be that I WAS USING THE WRONG INSTALLER FILE!!! Actually, I must have had two different downloaded versions of 12.6, because absolutely the Device Manager approach DID work a few weeks ago, even though this weekend's attempt failed. And this weekend, apparently I was using the wrong 12.6 installer.

The answer is that I foolishly thought that "all 12.6 installer files were the same", but that's apparently NOT the case. Yes, 12.6 is the last driver version supported for the HD4850 at this time, but there is a difference in the "WHQL" 12.6 installer file for HD5xxx and above and the "legacy WHQL" 12.6 installer file for HD4xxx and below, in terms of the "supported hardware" specified in the INF.

The 64-bit 12.6 WHQL drivers which I downloaded from Guru3D and tried to use for my HD4850 is NOT the proper file. This is apparently the installer for the HD5xxx and above. That's why nothing good ever came from it when I used it for my HD4850 even though it worked perfectly for my HD5770.

In fact, the CORRECT 64-bit 12.6 WHQL installer file to be used for HD4xxx and below is the "legacy" version (which includes support for the older HD AGP series cards as well as HD4xxx and below PCIe cards) which I have now properly downloaded from the ATI site.


Once I finally understood this (and how dumb I'd been all this time), I ran the CORRECT installer file.

And sure enough, it seemed to go without a hitch. The proper usual imbedded components were offered for installation, including driver, install manager, CCC, etc.. I unchecked a few items but the rest of the install went fine, except for a mysterious "Windows installer has closed" error message during the installation (while it was installing Catalyst Control Center). I clicked OK to make the message disappear, and the rest of the CCC install seemed to continue until finished.

But after re-booting, CCC would not launch. It was theoretically installed, but it would not launch.

Well, now I decided I was indeed very very close (since Device Manager DID show that the 12.6 driver had actually been installed!), and that it was now time to just revert back to the "recipe" I had discovered for getting CCC to fully uninstall/install correctly after which it will indeed launch successfully, and which has been documented in another thread:

Uninstall just CCC selectively (using Catalyst Install Manager), and then:

1. Check that registry locations are empty:
a. HKCU/Software/ATI/ACE
b. HKLM/Software/ATI/ACE
2. Check that (Program Files (X86) folder )/ATI Technologies/ATI.ACE is empty

3. Check (Windows folder)/Assembly folder to see if there's any files with Public Key Token of "90ba9c70f846762e" (Sort by Public key token to get a easier view). All these tokens should be uninstalled by right clicking and uninstalling.

4. Check that (Document and Settings)/(User)/AppData/Local/ATI/ACE is empty

5. Reboot.

6. Reinstall just CCC selectively, by running SETUP.EXE from the expanded Catalyst installer folder.

In fact, I observed that many of the alluded to "leftover" components of CCC were actually still there, in the Registry, folders, etc., apparently NOT being completely uninstalled by the Catalyst Install Manager although I'd gone through a selective uninstall of CCC.

And I now believe the reason that occurred is that the original install of CCC itself failed (i.e. the "Windows Installer has closed" message), so that the resulting install log which would be used in reverse for an uninstall was actually incomplete. This may or may not have had something to do with the existing Catalyst 12.3 I currently had installed, but for whatever reason the install of 12.6 CCC did NOT actually run "clean". And because of that the selective uninstall of CCC also did not complete successfully, leaving many of these leftover components around which apparently then interferes with any subsequent attempt to reinstall CCC.

And that's why the above "recipe" for removing CCC completely is so significant. And the reason for it now all becomes clear.

Anyway, I simply followed the steps of the above recipe, to truly clean out CCC. There were two DLL's in the ATI Technologies folder that I couldn't delete until I first rebooted, but I deleted them successfully after the reboot.

Then, as the final step of the recipe states, I just did a "custom selective" install of only CCC from SETUP.EXE in the same "legacy" WHQL 12.6 expanded driver installation folder, and this time IT RAN TO NORMAL COMPLETION WITH NO "WINDOWS INSTALLER HAS FAILED" ERROR.

One more reboot just for good luck, and now everything is truly installed, up-to-date at 12.6 (from the HD4850 from this "legacy" installer), running perfectly, and the case is closed.




I believe this will be the very last post-script. All it took really was getting the correct "legacy" version of the 12.6 driver installer file for HD4xxx and below, instead of the incorrect 12.6 installer for HD5000 and above.

And then the other item about CCC not installing, or not launching, and how to resolve that... well, that's truly worth knowing.
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02 Nov 2012   #1883

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

is that for lenovo y460 with radeon hd 5650 ?
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08 Nov 2012   #1884
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64
 
 

AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta6:

AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta6 resolves the issue with engine and memory clocks running too high when the GPU is idle. Clocks will now run at the proper level when the GPU is idle. This issue was only observed with specific displays and was observed in the AMD Catalyst 12.11Beta 4 and AMD Catalyst 12.10 drivers; The AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta6 has replaced the AMD Catalyst 12.11Beta 4 driver that was posted Oct 23, 2012.

AMD Beta Driver (official)
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11 Nov 2012   #1885

64-Bit W7 Ult_sp1
 
 

after doing tests over the past few months, I've plumped for the 12.7 BETA dated 25th June
as (by far) the best drivers for my 6870's in crossfire..

word is, that anything 12.10 and later will be a hit-or-miss for 6*** series cards, depending on which model/configuration you are running..

things are improving for 7*** series owners, and people are reporting good performance with the 12.11 BETA v6
it will run on my 6870's, but general performance is not good - severe drop in overall fps
and terrible performance in Flash/Youtube vids as well as streaming TV - blocky and lumpy..
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11 Nov 2012   #1886
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by NoN View Post
AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta6:

AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta6 resolves the issue with engine and memory clocks running too high when the GPU is idle. Clocks will now run at the proper level when the GPU is idle. This issue was only observed with specific displays and was observed in the AMD Catalyst 12.11Beta 4 and AMD Catalyst 12.10 drivers; The AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta6 has replaced the AMD Catalyst 12.11Beta 4 driver that was posted Oct 23, 2012.

AMD Beta Driver (official)
Thank you NoN. First post updated.
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13 Nov 2012   #1887
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64
 
 

AMD Beta7 already on his way!


Additional update found in AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta7
  • Call of Duty Black Ops 2: AMD CrossFire performance has been improved in the AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta7 release (especially at higher resolutions – such as 2560x1600)
  • Please note that AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta 7 includes all of the fixes found in previous versions of AMD Catalyst 12.11 Beta
Official AMD Beta driver
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13 Nov 2012   #1888
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 

Thank you NoN. First post updated.
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16 Nov 2012   #1889

Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Guys just got a 7770,i have allready installed 12.10 drivers,but i heard that the new beta drivers give a performance boost,so should i update? Ive had bad experiences with beta drivers before so unsure. Anyone trying the betas?
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16 Nov 2012   #1890

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by shinigami8671 View Post
Guys just got a 7770,i have allready installed 12.10 drivers,but i heard that the new beta drivers give a performance boost,so should i update? Ive had bad experiences with beta drivers before so unsure. Anyone trying the betas?
Honestly I wouldn't just updated to 12.10 myself this morning

Beta drivers have killed my performance somewhat and causes massive stall issues when gaming so for one I leave them alone now untill the finish product because guess what you are the Guinea pig when it comes to a beta driver
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