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Windows 7 - new pci-express 2.0 (or 1.0) graphics card to buy..? |
12-28-2011
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#1 | | Genuine Windows 7 Professional SP1 32bit |
new pci-express 2.0 (or 1.0) graphics card to buy..? yesterday i discovered that my motherboard (asus p5lp-le) doesn't support pci-express 2.1, used by all Radeon 5xxx and 6xxx series. i bought an HD 5670 and it failed...
there are not updates for my bios, so pci-e 2.1 will never work on my mobo
today i will buy a new graphics card on the same shop i took the HD 5670.
my budget is 80€ (price of the old card that i will return) and another 40€.... 120€ in total.
i need pci express 2.0 (NO 2.1) or pci express 1.0, and i have only 1 6pin connector on my pc.
i was looking for radeon 47xx-48xx series, or for nvidia (that uses pci-e 2.0 in all his cards). nvidia also uses physix and dx11, radeon 4xxx series uses only dx10.1 (and no physix)...
if possible i want a grapics card similar to the HD 5670 and with GDDR5 memory (512mb or 1gb)
the old card i have (that comes with my pc) is a Radeon X1650 (512Mb ddr2)... all i need is a performance boost to play games at better graphics setting and to run Windows 7 Aero, Media Center and videos with good performance.
what should i take ? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Media Center PC m7750.it (modified) OS Genuine Windows 7 Professional SP1 32bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo Conroe E6300 @1.86 GHz (2 cores, 2 MB L2) Motherboard Asus P5LP-LE Leonite (Socket LGA 775, PCIe 1.1) Memory 3 GB DDR2 Dual Channel PC2-5300 (2x512 MB + 2x1024 MB) Graphics Card PNY GeForce GTS 450 XLR8 - Performance Edition (1 GB GDDR5) Sound Card Integrated Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Packard Bell Viseo 200Ws Screen Resolution 1600x900 @59/60Hz Keyboard HP Wireless Keyboard 5187URF2 Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 USB PSU NILOX 600W Case HP Media Center m7000 Cooling 4 fans (System, CPU, GPU, PSU) Hard Drives Western Digital SATA 313 GB Other Info Secondary PC:
OS: Windows XP Professional SP3 32bit;
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Northwood @2.53 GHz (1 core, 512 KB L2);
Motherboard: Asus P4S8X (Socket 478 mPGA, SiS AGP 8x with fast write);
Memory: 2 GB DDR PC-3200 (2x512 MB + 1x1024 MB);
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon 9600 PRO AGP 8x (256 MB DDR);
Monitor Displays: Philips Brillance 151AX;
Screen Resolution: 1024x768 @60Hz; |
12-28-2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
When you say it failed, what exactly happened?
PCI Express is backwards compatabile.
Also, PCI Express 2.0 and 2.1 are basically the same thing.
2.1 just introduced support for some newer features, but they run at the same speed & are still backward compatable with older technology.
If your current board is a PCI-X 1.0, it should work without issue. It is quite possible you had a bad card. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k (4.5Ghz) Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 2x4GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks (@1866) Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SuperClocked (1280MB) Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T (SE White) Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives [OS SSD]Intel 320 (80GB) -- Intel X25-V (40GB) --WD Black (1TB)x2 -- WD Blue (640GB) Other Info LG BD/DVD |
12-28-2011
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#3 | | Genuine Windows 7 Professional SP1 32bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Wishmaster When you say it failed, what exactly happened?
PCI Express is backwards compatabile.
Also, PCI Express 2.0 and 2.1 are basically the same thing.
2.1 just introduced support for some newer features, but they run at the same speed & are still backward compatable with older technology.
If your current board is a PCI-X 1.0, it should work without issue. It is quite possible you had a bad card. my mobo isn't compatible with pci-e 2.1:
when i try to turn on my pc with the hd 5670 plugged-in, monitor says "no signal" and nothing work. only fans run.
other people have this problem, but only with hd 5xxx series (that have pci-e 2.1)
so i must take a pci-e 2.0 or 1.0 card... what one? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Media Center PC m7750.it (modified) OS Genuine Windows 7 Professional SP1 32bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo Conroe E6300 @1.86 GHz (2 cores, 2 MB L2) Motherboard Asus P5LP-LE Leonite (Socket LGA 775, PCIe 1.1) Memory 3 GB DDR2 Dual Channel PC2-5300 (2x512 MB + 2x1024 MB) Graphics Card PNY GeForce GTS 450 XLR8 - Performance Edition (1 GB GDDR5) Sound Card Integrated Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Packard Bell Viseo 200Ws Screen Resolution 1600x900 @59/60Hz Keyboard HP Wireless Keyboard 5187URF2 Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 USB PSU NILOX 600W Case HP Media Center m7000 Cooling 4 fans (System, CPU, GPU, PSU) Hard Drives Western Digital SATA 313 GB Other Info Secondary PC:
OS: Windows XP Professional SP3 32bit;
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Northwood @2.53 GHz (1 core, 512 KB L2);
Motherboard: Asus P4S8X (Socket 478 mPGA, SiS AGP 8x with fast write);
Memory: 2 GB DDR PC-3200 (2x512 MB + 1x1024 MB);
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon 9600 PRO AGP 8x (256 MB DDR);
Monitor Displays: Philips Brillance 151AX;
Screen Resolution: 1024x768 @60Hz; |
12-28-2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Well that is wierd because they are backwards compatable.
The only other thing I can suggest is looking in the bios and see if theres a setting for the Graphics. PEG, PCI, PCIExpress etc and set it appropriately.
Beyond that, it will be hard to say which PCI 2.0 card to get. Since 2.0 and 2.1 are essentially the same, most manufacturers only put PCI-e 2.0 in the specs.
Not sure what to suggest ... Perhaps others may have more knowl;edge of that particular board and can offer better advice. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom (Self Build) OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel Core i7 2700k (4.5Ghz) Motherboard eVGA P67 SLI Memory 2x4GB Mushkin Redline Ridgebacks (@1866) Graphics Card EVGA GTX570 SuperClocked (1280MB) Sound Card XiFi Titanium HD Monitor(s) Displays LG W2453V Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg PSU Seasonic x750 Case Corsair 600T (SE White) Cooling eVGA Superclocked CPU Cooler Hard Drives [OS SSD]Intel 320 (80GB) -- Intel X25-V (40GB) --WD Black (1TB)x2 -- WD Blue (640GB) Other Info LG BD/DVD |
12-28-2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 |
They are backwards compatible, but in some instances they just don't work. It could be a faulty card as these things happen, but only way to find out is plugging it into another pc.
You do have the 4/8 pin pci power cable plugged into the top left of the motherboard don't you? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by badgers!!! OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 CPU Intel Core i5 2500k Motherboard Asus P8z68 Memory Corsair Vengence 8gb 1866mhz Graphics Card XFX Ati HD6950 2Gb Sound Card Mobo Optical to Yamaha Rx-V667 7.2 home cinema system Monitor(s) Displays Samsung LED 32" TV Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg V7 Mouse Saitek R.A.T 9 PSU Corsair HX650w Modular Case NZXT Phantom White Cooling Corsair H60 Push/Pull Hard Drives 120gb Corsair Force 3 SSD Internet Speed Too slow! Other Info AMD fusion E350N Home server-Windows Home Server 2011 (also made by badgers!)
2011 Macbook 2.4ghz Core2Duo, 4gb ddr3, 120gb Ocz Vertex SSD |
12-28-2011
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#6 | | Genuine Windows 7 Professional SP1 32bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by badger906 They are backwards compatible, but in some instances they just don't work. It could be a faulty card as these things happen, but only way to find out is plugging it into another pc.
You do have the 4/8 pin pci power cable plugged into the top left of the motherboard don't you? yes, if i haven't the 4pin cable plugged in pci-e would not have power and HD 5670's fan would not run...
pci-e 2.0 should work.
pci-e 2.1 doesn't work because there's an incompatibility with my mobo...
i tried ALL to run this HD 5670... but nothing works! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Media Center PC m7750.it (modified) OS Genuine Windows 7 Professional SP1 32bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo Conroe E6300 @1.86 GHz (2 cores, 2 MB L2) Motherboard Asus P5LP-LE Leonite (Socket LGA 775, PCIe 1.1) Memory 3 GB DDR2 Dual Channel PC2-5300 (2x512 MB + 2x1024 MB) Graphics Card PNY GeForce GTS 450 XLR8 - Performance Edition (1 GB GDDR5) Sound Card Integrated Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Packard Bell Viseo 200Ws Screen Resolution 1600x900 @59/60Hz Keyboard HP Wireless Keyboard 5187URF2 Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 USB PSU NILOX 600W Case HP Media Center m7000 Cooling 4 fans (System, CPU, GPU, PSU) Hard Drives Western Digital SATA 313 GB Other Info Secondary PC:
OS: Windows XP Professional SP3 32bit;
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Northwood @2.53 GHz (1 core, 512 KB L2);
Motherboard: Asus P4S8X (Socket 478 mPGA, SiS AGP 8x with fast write);
Memory: 2 GB DDR PC-3200 (2x512 MB + 1x1024 MB);
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon 9600 PRO AGP 8x (256 MB DDR);
Monitor Displays: Philips Brillance 151AX;
Screen Resolution: 1024x768 @60Hz; |
12-28-2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 |
No if you didn't have the 4/8pin pci power connected the fans would still spin as you have a power cable(s) plugged directly into the graphics card itself.
The 4/8 pin pci connector power just the pci slots, not the card, and having it unplugged results in the "no signal" message.. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by badgers!!! OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Mac OS X 10.7.1 CPU Intel Core i5 2500k Motherboard Asus P8z68 Memory Corsair Vengence 8gb 1866mhz Graphics Card XFX Ati HD6950 2Gb Sound Card Mobo Optical to Yamaha Rx-V667 7.2 home cinema system Monitor(s) Displays Samsung LED 32" TV Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Saitek Cyborg V7 Mouse Saitek R.A.T 9 PSU Corsair HX650w Modular Case NZXT Phantom White Cooling Corsair H60 Push/Pull Hard Drives 120gb Corsair Force 3 SSD Internet Speed Too slow! Other Info AMD fusion E350N Home server-Windows Home Server 2011 (also made by badgers!)
2011 Macbook 2.4ghz Core2Duo, 4gb ddr3, 120gb Ocz Vertex SSD |
12-28-2011
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#8 | | Genuine Windows 7 Professional SP1 32bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by badger906 No if you didn't have the 4/8pin pci power connected the fans would still spin as you have a power cable(s) plugged directly into the graphics card itself.
The 4/8 pin pci connector power just the pci slots, not the card, and having it unplugged results in the "no signal" message.. my HD 5670 doesn't need a power cable... all i need is a pci-express slot and a 400W power supply unit (i have 600W).
(when i insert my old card, the X1650SE, all work perfectly) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Media Center PC m7750.it (modified) OS Genuine Windows 7 Professional SP1 32bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo Conroe E6300 @1.86 GHz (2 cores, 2 MB L2) Motherboard Asus P5LP-LE Leonite (Socket LGA 775, PCIe 1.1) Memory 3 GB DDR2 Dual Channel PC2-5300 (2x512 MB + 2x1024 MB) Graphics Card PNY GeForce GTS 450 XLR8 - Performance Edition (1 GB GDDR5) Sound Card Integrated Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Packard Bell Viseo 200Ws Screen Resolution 1600x900 @59/60Hz Keyboard HP Wireless Keyboard 5187URF2 Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 USB PSU NILOX 600W Case HP Media Center m7000 Cooling 4 fans (System, CPU, GPU, PSU) Hard Drives Western Digital SATA 313 GB Other Info Secondary PC:
OS: Windows XP Professional SP3 32bit;
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Northwood @2.53 GHz (1 core, 512 KB L2);
Motherboard: Asus P4S8X (Socket 478 mPGA, SiS AGP 8x with fast write);
Memory: 2 GB DDR PC-3200 (2x512 MB + 1x1024 MB);
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon 9600 PRO AGP 8x (256 MB DDR);
Monitor Displays: Philips Brillance 151AX;
Screen Resolution: 1024x768 @60Hz; |
12-28-2011
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#9 | | Genuine Windows 7 Professional SP1 32bit |
i bought a PNY Geforce GTS 450 XLR8 (performance edition). it supports pci-express 2.0, so it should work with my mobo.
also i found in other forums that some users can run this GPU on Asus P5LP-LE mobo (mine).
let's test it tomorrow! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Media Center PC m7750.it (modified) OS Genuine Windows 7 Professional SP1 32bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo Conroe E6300 @1.86 GHz (2 cores, 2 MB L2) Motherboard Asus P5LP-LE Leonite (Socket LGA 775, PCIe 1.1) Memory 3 GB DDR2 Dual Channel PC2-5300 (2x512 MB + 2x1024 MB) Graphics Card PNY GeForce GTS 450 XLR8 - Performance Edition (1 GB GDDR5) Sound Card Integrated Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Packard Bell Viseo 200Ws Screen Resolution 1600x900 @59/60Hz Keyboard HP Wireless Keyboard 5187URF2 Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 USB PSU NILOX 600W Case HP Media Center m7000 Cooling 4 fans (System, CPU, GPU, PSU) Hard Drives Western Digital SATA 313 GB Other Info Secondary PC:
OS: Windows XP Professional SP3 32bit;
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Northwood @2.53 GHz (1 core, 512 KB L2);
Motherboard: Asus P4S8X (Socket 478 mPGA, SiS AGP 8x with fast write);
Memory: 2 GB DDR PC-3200 (2x512 MB + 1x1024 MB);
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon 9600 PRO AGP 8x (256 MB DDR);
Monitor Displays: Philips Brillance 151AX;
Screen Resolution: 1024x768 @60Hz; |
12-29-2011
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#10 | | Genuine Windows 7 Professional SP1 32bit |
it works!! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Media Center PC m7750.it (modified) OS Genuine Windows 7 Professional SP1 32bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo Conroe E6300 @1.86 GHz (2 cores, 2 MB L2) Motherboard Asus P5LP-LE Leonite (Socket LGA 775, PCIe 1.1) Memory 3 GB DDR2 Dual Channel PC2-5300 (2x512 MB + 2x1024 MB) Graphics Card PNY GeForce GTS 450 XLR8 - Performance Edition (1 GB GDDR5) Sound Card Integrated Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Packard Bell Viseo 200Ws Screen Resolution 1600x900 @59/60Hz Keyboard HP Wireless Keyboard 5187URF2 Mouse Microsoft Basic Optical Mouse v2.0 USB PSU NILOX 600W Case HP Media Center m7000 Cooling 4 fans (System, CPU, GPU, PSU) Hard Drives Western Digital SATA 313 GB Other Info Secondary PC:
OS: Windows XP Professional SP3 32bit;
CPU: Intel Pentium 4 Northwood @2.53 GHz (1 core, 512 KB L2);
Motherboard: Asus P4S8X (Socket 478 mPGA, SiS AGP 8x with fast write);
Memory: 2 GB DDR PC-3200 (2x512 MB + 1x1024 MB);
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon 9600 PRO AGP 8x (256 MB DDR);
Monitor Displays: Philips Brillance 151AX;
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