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Windows 7: Radeon X1650 Pro (512MB) PCI-e (Help needed)

12 Aug 2009   #1

Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit)
 
 
Radeon X1650 Pro (512MB) PCI-e (Help needed)

A couple days ago I finally decided to try out Windows 7. To my surprise if found myself liking the experience (I was one to downgrade back to XP from Vista).

So far I haven't run into any problems except my video card.

In the setup I am using I also have my computer hooked up to my Tv so I can watch the movies I download. Right now I am at a standstill because I can't clone my desktop onto my TV which would allow me to watch the movies.

The primary drivers for my monitor work perfectly. I have no complaints there. It is just getting that Catalyst Control Center to work (which it won't) so that I can select the "clone" option that is screwing me up. Other than that my experience with Windows Seven has been flawless.

So far I have tried using both the 32bit and 64bit versions of Windows 7.

With the 32bit installed everytime I tried to connect my second conneciton to the video card my primary monitor would go dark and my TV would take over as the primary monitor. None of the drivers out there that I tried (both the new catalyst drivers and the last updated drivers for X1650) would fix this.

I then switched over to the 64bit version of Windows 7 and got a little bit better results. This time when I would connect to my TV my main computer monitor would still stay my primary monitor and my TV would stay secondary. The problem is the only thing that shows up on my TV is the Windows desktop background and nothing else. No start menu no nothing will appear other than that background. As of right now that is where I am at.

With that said is there any fix out there for this problem at this time? If not can I expect a fix for this in the future or should I just start making plans to put a little money back here and there to buy another video card that can fall within my limited expendable budget.

Any help into this problem would be greatly appreciated as I would like to make the switch over to Windows 7 now rather then wait a couple months when I can afford another 60 to 100 bucks to buy another video card that can support HD.

Again any help would be greatly appreciated.

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12 Aug 2009   #2
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

GhostRaider, welcome to the forums.

Part of the problem is that ATI is not putting out any official Windows 7 drivers for that card, or any card prior to the HD2xxx series, due to lack of WDDM 1.1 support in the cards. If you haven't yet I would try the latest Vista driver for your card,

ATI Catalystâ„¢ Legacy Display Driver

will probably have to install it in compatibility mode.
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12 Aug 2009   #3

Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
GhostRaider, welcome to the forums.

Part of the problem is that ATI is not putting out any official Windows 7 drivers for that card, or any card prior to the HD2xxx series, due to lack of WDDM 1.1 support in the cards. If you haven't yet I would try the latest Vista driver for your card,

ATI Catalystâ„¢ Legacy Display Driver

will probably have to install it in compatibility mode.
Thanks for the welcome Stormy.

Unfortunately I have tried those specific drivers on both the 32 and 64 bit systems. As well as the newest ones from the stickied post at the top of the forum. I get basically the same results with both with just a little better results on my 64bit system.

Can I ask what do you mean (and sorry for my ignorance...I am not that computer savy...just enough to get by) "install it in compatibility mode"? How do I do that. So far all I have done is download and install. Is this a different method of installation and if so how do I do it?
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12 Aug 2009   #4

Win7 Build 7600 x86
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by GhostRaider View Post
A couple days ago I finally decided to try out Windows 7. To my surprise if found myself liking the experience (I was one to downgrade back to XP from Vista).

So far I haven't run into any problems except my video card.

In the setup I am using I also have my computer hooked up to my Tv so I can watch the movies I download. Right now I am at a standstill because I can't clone my desktop onto my TV which would allow me to watch the movies.

The primary drivers for my monitor work perfectly. I have no complaints there. It is just getting that Catalyst Control Center to work (which it won't) so that I can select the "clone" option that is screwing me up. Other than that my experience with Windows Seven has been flawless.

So far I have tried using both the 32bit and 64bit versions of Windows 7.

With the 32bit installed everytime I tried to connect my second conneciton to the video card my primary monitor would go dark and my TV would take over as the primary monitor. None of the drivers out there that I tried (both the new catalyst drivers and the last updated drivers for X1650) would fix this.

I then switched over to the 64bit version of Windows 7 and got a little bit better results. This time when I would connect to my TV my main computer monitor would still stay my primary monitor and my TV would stay secondary. The problem is the only thing that shows up on my TV is the Windows desktop background and nothing else. No start menu no nothing will appear other than that background. As of right now that is where I am at.

With that said is there any fix out there for this problem at this time? If not can I expect a fix for this in the future or should I just start making plans to put a little money back here and there to buy another video card that can fall within my limited expendable budget.

Any help into this problem would be greatly appreciated as I would like to make the switch over to Windows 7 now rather then wait a couple months when I can afford another 60 to 100 bucks to buy another video card that can support HD.

Again any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hi GhostRaider,

If I understand right, you now have succeeded in having both monitors showing picture,
but your remaining problem is that the second monitor only show an empty desktop?

Well that is the default dual screen layout. Under XP it was exactly the same.
You can drag screens from your first monitor to that desktop.

But if you want the TV to show the same as you have on the other monitor,
you need to select clone instead of dual screen.

Clone will give you identical views on the monitor and the TV.

good luck

Greetz
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12 Aug 2009   #5

Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by squonksc View Post
Hi GhostRaider,

If I understand right, you now have succeeded in having both monitors showing picture,
Hello and you are correct.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by squonksc View Post
but your remaining problem is that the second monitor only show an empty desktop?
You are correct again.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by squonksc View Post
Well that is the default dual screen layout. Under XP it was exactly the same.
You can drag screens from your first monitor to that desktop.
And now may I say HOLY CRAP!!! And thankyou for pointing this out. This basically solves my problem which also in a twist of irony is a problem I didn't actually have in the first place now that you have pointed it out LOL!!!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by squonksc View Post
But if you want the TV to show the same as you have on the other monitor,
you need to select clone instead of dual screen.
Do you know of any way of selecting the clone option (without using the control center)? That is the glitch. The CCC doesn't appear to work when click on it nor does it ever show up on the taskbar.

It (clone) is what I have always used hence my total ignorance of what my card has been defaulting to since I started using the 64bit system unbeknownest to me. That is the only problem that I am/was facing until you provided me with that bit of knowledge that fixed my problem.

If you have some insight to that it would be greatly apreciated and even if you don't a great big THANKYOU!!!! to you squonksc as you have solved my initial problem.
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12 Aug 2009   #6
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Right click on the desktop and select "Screen Resolution". On the window that opens should be a line called "Multiple displays", just select duplicate from the dropdown menu.

P.S. FWIW ATI removed the whole clone/extended options from the CCC (at least in 7), as Windows 7 has the functionality built-in.

One more thing to check regarding CCC. Open Task Manager and see if both CCC.exe and MOM.exe are running. If not try the "Restart runtime" shortcut in the CCC folder in the Start menu, and see if that will get it going.

Also to install in compatibility mode right click on the driver file and select Properties, then click on the Compatibility tab and set it to Vista (I would go with the SP2 option); may also want to check off the "run as administrator" option as well if UAC is enabled.
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12 Aug 2009   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
Right click on the desktop and select "Screen Resolution". On the window that opens should be a line called "Multiple displays", just select duplicate from the dropdown menu.
And with this you just solved my original problem as stated. Thankyou.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
One more thing to check regarding CCC. Open Task Manager and see if both CCC.exe and MOM.exe are running. If not try the "Restart runtime" shortcut in the CCC folder in the Start menu, and see if that will get it going.
Opened the task manager and they were both running. Tried the "restart" and still got nothing. But this isn't really important anymore as you have shown me how to clone my desktop to my Tv.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
Also to install in compatibility mode right click on the driver file and select Properties, then click on the Compatibility tab and set it to Vista (I would go with the SP2 option); may also want to check off the "run as administrator" option as well if UAC is enabled.
Thanks for this bit of info.

Again thanks stormy13 and squonksc. You both have been godsends.
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13 Aug 2009   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate (32-bit)
 
 

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