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Windows 7: Onboard video chipset

30 Jan 2012   #1
johntkucz

windows 7 pro
 
 
Onboard video chipset

Hello,
I recently asked a question about cpu fans that come with the cpu (and helpfully learned that they are often not powerful enough for moderate cpu usage and often loud) which clarified why I should get a separate cpu fan.

Two questions.

Could I use the fan that comes with the cpu, assemble the rig and then replace the cpu fan with, say a hyper 212 later on, or would that be problematic (if I noticed heat or noise problems with the fan that comes with the amd fx cpu).


2.
ASUS M5A88-V EVO AM3+ AMD 880G HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard

Has an onboard video chipset. It has the exact same ports (hdmi, dvi, and vga) as my gpu...What would happen if I installed my gpu (gigabyte geforce 440t 1gb) on that mobo...would it just use one video card or both? would having two video cards be redundantly useless or amp graphics processing??

Thanks.


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30 Jan 2012   #2
Dwarf

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

Generally speaking, the fans that come supplied with processors are good enough for everyday work and slight overclocking. Remember that both AMD and Intel offer warranties for their processors, and they know about the dangers of too much heat, which can quickly build up if a poor quality heatsink/fan is used. Therefore, they supply the CPUs with a quality HSF assembly that is sufficient for everyday use.

Providing that you get a suitable fan that fits correctly, there should be no problem. As these fans come with a heatsink, you should make sure that you clean off the residual thermal interface material from the top of the CPU and reapply a fresh layer, following the manufacturer's instructions (unless the heatsink has some pre-applied).

As regards the graphics card, it would be beneficial to install a card as it has its own dedicated memory (on-board graphics grab a portion of your main memory for this purpose). Plus, there would be less load on the CPU. In some cases (and this depends on the BIOS), it is possible to have both on-board and discrete graphics running in conjunction with each other, although there might be some restrictions as to what cards can be used for this purpose.
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30 Jan 2012   #3
johntkucz

windows 7 pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf View Post
Generally speaking, the fans that come supplied with processors are good enough for everyday work and slight overclocking. Remember that both AMD and Intel offer warranties for their processors, and they know about the dangers of too much heat, which can quickly build up if a poor quality heatsink/fan is used. Therefore, they supply the CPUs with a quality HSF assembly that is sufficient for everyday use.
well...that contradicts the seemingly sound advice I heard saying that the stock cpu-supplied fans were junky and loud...but that said, what you say makes sense. neither of those cpu companies want their cpus frying with the supplied fans for customer relations!

I only have three more parts to acquire!! Yippee!!! (in a way they are the most clutch). I will likely stick with amd. I am def getting asus mobo. Finally, I upped the hd to a 7200 and was keen on Seagate but wondered if that is good (WD is not an option as I don't like nor use those hds).


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Providing that you get a suitable fan that fits correctly, there should be no problem. As these fans come with a heatsink, you should make sure that you clean off the residual thermal interface material from the top of the CPU and reapply a fresh layer, following the manufacturer's instructions (unless the heatsink has some pre-applied).
yeah brilliant I was just watching a fan installation vid and realized the thermal paste would be the main concern with swapping cpu fans.

As regards the graphics card, it would be beneficial to install a card as it has its own dedicated memory (on-board graphics grab a portion of your main memory for this purpose). Plus, there would be less load on the CPU. In some cases (and this depends on the BIOS), it is possible to have both on-board and discrete graphics running in conjunction with each other, although there might be some restrictions as to what cards can be used for this purpose.[/QUOTE]

okay hhmm this is VERY helpful, mate, thanks, but this last 3rd part I don't quite understand.

I have a gpu. I am using the aforementioned gpu regardless. I was originally going to get a less expensive asus mobo with no onboard vid chipset. This slightly more expensive (w/ the onboard vid chipset) caught my eye and wanted ideas on if I should just get the non-onboard vid chipset mobo b/c already will be installing gpu.

Basically, would I get better performance installing same geforce 440t gpu on the mobo with the onboard vid or would either motherboard just use the installed vid card and ignore the onboard one? Bit confused on that. I will likely go with the mobo without onboard vid.
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30 Jan 2012   #4
johntkucz

windows 7 pro
 
 

Finally i've noticed a bit of a pattern. This is the second response I've gotten from someone from the uk and it, like the first, has been noticeably freakishly helpful! (the first uk responder helped solve a pagefile.sys memory location problem and got that all sorted out and learned too, sweet!).
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30 Jan 2012   #5
johntkucz

windows 7 pro
 
 

this is basically solved if I can understand the usage of onboard vid with gpu (would onboard be useless?) would be better off with mobo without onboard vid chipset?

And it seems with extra thermal paste, swapping fans would work . And I will likely use the included cpu fan as I am on very tight financial distribution for these components. Sweet thanks!
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30 Jan 2012   #6
cyclic

Windows 7 home premium x64
 
 

Onboard chips are ok for everyday use, surfing using apps etc; but if you do or may ever want to play any games (above 2D point and click) you need a dedicated graphics card.
The PC will only ever use one of either the onboard or dedicated, plugging a dedicated one in disables the onboard, but it's worth checking in BIOS setup.
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